"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The truth about the 1-10 scale.

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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JackBauer24 said:
I didn't see one girl I would date or have sex with, let alone give them a 10.
i think you should worry less about the rating scale and worry more (as in "go out there and make a move") about why you haven't got laid.

i don't buy these "i'm a virgin cuz i haven't found a girl hot enough for me yet" lines. Unless you live in the north pole you can find hot girls in your area if you put in the effort. And if you like Eskimo girls, you might have a chance even at the pole

I am VERY picky and somewhat shallow when it comes to physical beauty. But that hasn't stopped me from getting laid... it s just made me work harder in order to get what i want

and regarding your point, the 1-10 scale would be useful if they were universal criterias to judge girls by. Let's be serious, no one really cares about advice from someone who only scores HB6s and below or how is dating ugly/fat chicks. As it is, however, someone's HB6 might be somebody else's HB9, so it s really hard to judge

as a side note: noticed how all the FR/LR deal with HBs 8 and above? well i bet you a lot of these were average looking at best. however, a lot of the times your success (or lack of) influences your rating scale...
 

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drak_ool said:
i think you should worry less about the rating scale and worry more (as in "go out there and make a move") about why you haven't got laid.

i don't buy these "i'm a virgin cuz i haven't found a girl hot enough for me yet" lines. Unless you live in the north pole you can find hot girls in your area if you put in the effort. And if you like Eskimo girls, you might have a chance even at the pole

I am VERY picky and somewhat shallow when it comes to physical beauty. But that hasn't stopped me from getting laid... it s just made me work harder in order to get what i want

and regarding your point, the 1-10 scale would be useful if they were universal criterias to judge girls by. Let's be serious, no one really cares about advice from someone who only scores HB6s and below or how is dating ugly/fat chicks. As it is, however, someone's HB6 might be somebody else's HB9, so it s really hard to judge

as a side note: noticed how all the FR/LR deal with HBs 8 and above? well i bet you a lot of these were average looking at best. however, a lot of the times your success (or lack of) influences your rating scale...
Hahaha. I was going to say the same thing. Can you imagine a bunch of guys sitting around trying to develop the correct rating scale for women, as if they were trying to categorize them for whatever reason? You either think she's datable or not. Leave everything else to the scientists.:flowers: :eek: :trouble: :yes:
 

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mahon83050 said:
I agree with you on the Winona Ryder thing. She is my dream woman. I used to work with a girl who looked like Winona Ryder (atleast I thought) and she had green eyes to boot.

People say I remind them of Winona Ryder a lot. But hotter. ;) ;) ;)
 

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iqqi said:
People say I remind them of Winona Ryder a lot. But hotter. ;) ;) ;)
Says the girl with no pic and won't even give her age. And I thought Wyldfire was bad. We have a new winner!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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mahon83050 said:
probably ugly since she looks like a man, but I think you would need a better pic.

How about this one?

I think the girl on the left is quite cute, not VERY ATTRACTIVE, but ATTRACTIVE. The girl on the right is leaning more towards UNATTRACTIVE, NOT AVERAGE

http://simmons.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30636635&op=1&view=all&subj=8002178&id=8003166

I also would think a majority of men would find the girl on the left above average and the girl on the right below average. However, maybe it just me being egocentric again and thinking every person also sees what I see.
Whoa.........what contrast. The asian suffers from major fish-face syndrome. I doubt even make-up would help.

Mahonxxxx.......you are not being EGOCENTRIC here- the caucasian girl is definitely above-average, whereas the below-average mug to your right got smacked hard by the UGLY STICK.
 

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rrrrr said:
Can you imagine a bunch of guys sitting around trying to develop the correct rating scale for women, as if they were trying to categorize them for whatever reason?
and they re all sitting around in this top-secret lab, working day and night but the harder they work, the more complex the scale gets... "what about this one?"
"i think she s a 7.9879773" "no way! are you blind? she s a 7.9876578" "you guys must be joking... she s obviously a 7.9878763"
 

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Even though "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" we can still make generalizations. And that's what they are. HB10 is a gal who the majority of people will put above a HB9. For you it might be the sweetest girl but if i go around asking hundreds of people I will get the correct rating.
 

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iqqi said:
People say I remind them of Winona Ryder a lot. But hotter. ;) ;) ;)

No one is hotter than Winona Ryder was.





mahon83050 said:
Here is another one of her (the cute one)


This girl is about a 7.5-8 in my book.

I'd give her a 6, maybe 6.5 if the picture is unflattering but that sort of goes into this whole "each scale is personal" thing. For me if you're gonna do a 1-10 scale it has to have some degree of normalization that makes 1,2 and 9,10 vanishingly rare.

Most should be around 5.5 plus or minus 2 ...

So this girl is cuter than the average girl her age on the street here in the Portland area maybe. Or maybe not. For her age she appears to be about average looking.

If you factor out age then it gets a little crazy, maybe she's a 9 compared to all the ancient Asian trolls that you see at the bus stop.
 

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Dilberto said:
Whoa.........what contrast. The asian suffers from major fish-face syndrome. I doubt even make-up would help.

Mahonxxxx.......you are not being EGOCENTRIC here- the caucasian girl is definitely above-average, whereas the below-average mug to your right got smacked hard by the UGLY STICK.

The asian girl seems to suffer from a dentofacial deformity. Remember, the upper and lower jaws play a HUGE role in facial aesthetics.

The red head is definitely cute like you said, but I don't think she fits into the "bombshell category."
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Look at it like this - One man's 1 is another man's 10, but the dominant race/socioeconomic group tends to dictate the physical traits that are to be considered "universally" attractive.

I have my own physical characteristics that i love to see but am not bound by... but on my scale I don't consider girls below a 5 in looks.
 

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Luveno said:
Beauty is eye-catching, as is ugliness.

My scale is 1-10.

5 is average, meaning she would not catch my eye at all in a crowd.

6-10 = there's something about them physically that makes them stand out of a crowd in a positive way.

0-4 = there's something about their physical appearance that is negatively eye-catching.

If anyone is below 5 they do not get any of my consideration.


I asked 8 friends what their standards were, and they all said 8 - 10. Then I asked "What if a 10 wanted to sleep with you but had slept with all the other guys we know? They kissed her, touched everything, did everything with her and to her. Would you still sleep with them the next day or would you sleep with a 5/10 who had only slept with one guy?"

All 8 said they would sleep with the 5/10.

Funny when it affects us our standards change twofold.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
I asked 8 friends what their standards were, and they all said 8 - 10. Then I asked "What if a 10 wanted to sleep with you but had slept with all the other guys we know? They kissed her, touched everything, did everything with her and to her. Would you still sleep with them the next day or would you sleep with a 5/10 who had only slept with one guy?"

All 8 said they would sleep with the 5/10.

Funny when it affects us our standards change twofold.
^^they lied... actually must men will try to sleep with both...
 
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