“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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The truth about the 1-10 scale.

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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JackBauer24 said:
I didn't see one girl I would date or have sex with, let alone give them a 10.
i think you should worry less about the rating scale and worry more (as in "go out there and make a move") about why you haven't got laid.

i don't buy these "i'm a virgin cuz i haven't found a girl hot enough for me yet" lines. Unless you live in the north pole you can find hot girls in your area if you put in the effort. And if you like Eskimo girls, you might have a chance even at the pole

I am VERY picky and somewhat shallow when it comes to physical beauty. But that hasn't stopped me from getting laid... it s just made me work harder in order to get what i want

and regarding your point, the 1-10 scale would be useful if they were universal criterias to judge girls by. Let's be serious, no one really cares about advice from someone who only scores HB6s and below or how is dating ugly/fat chicks. As it is, however, someone's HB6 might be somebody else's HB9, so it s really hard to judge

as a side note: noticed how all the FR/LR deal with HBs 8 and above? well i bet you a lot of these were average looking at best. however, a lot of the times your success (or lack of) influences your rating scale...
 

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drak_ool said:
i think you should worry less about the rating scale and worry more (as in "go out there and make a move") about why you haven't got laid.

i don't buy these "i'm a virgin cuz i haven't found a girl hot enough for me yet" lines. Unless you live in the north pole you can find hot girls in your area if you put in the effort. And if you like Eskimo girls, you might have a chance even at the pole

I am VERY picky and somewhat shallow when it comes to physical beauty. But that hasn't stopped me from getting laid... it s just made me work harder in order to get what i want

and regarding your point, the 1-10 scale would be useful if they were universal criterias to judge girls by. Let's be serious, no one really cares about advice from someone who only scores HB6s and below or how is dating ugly/fat chicks. As it is, however, someone's HB6 might be somebody else's HB9, so it s really hard to judge

as a side note: noticed how all the FR/LR deal with HBs 8 and above? well i bet you a lot of these were average looking at best. however, a lot of the times your success (or lack of) influences your rating scale...
Hahaha. I was going to say the same thing. Can you imagine a bunch of guys sitting around trying to develop the correct rating scale for women, as if they were trying to categorize them for whatever reason? You either think she's datable or not. Leave everything else to the scientists.:flowers: :eek: :trouble: :yes:
 

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mahon83050 said:
I agree with you on the Winona Ryder thing. She is my dream woman. I used to work with a girl who looked like Winona Ryder (atleast I thought) and she had green eyes to boot.

People say I remind them of Winona Ryder a lot. But hotter. ;) ;) ;)
 

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iqqi said:
People say I remind them of Winona Ryder a lot. But hotter. ;) ;) ;)
Says the girl with no pic and won't even give her age. And I thought Wyldfire was bad. We have a new winner!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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mahon83050 said:
probably ugly since she looks like a man, but I think you would need a better pic.

How about this one?

I think the girl on the left is quite cute, not VERY ATTRACTIVE, but ATTRACTIVE. The girl on the right is leaning more towards UNATTRACTIVE, NOT AVERAGE

http://simmons.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30636635&op=1&view=all&subj=8002178&id=8003166

I also would think a majority of men would find the girl on the left above average and the girl on the right below average. However, maybe it just me being egocentric again and thinking every person also sees what I see.
Whoa.........what contrast. The asian suffers from major fish-face syndrome. I doubt even make-up would help.

Mahonxxxx.......you are not being EGOCENTRIC here- the caucasian girl is definitely above-average, whereas the below-average mug to your right got smacked hard by the UGLY STICK.
 

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rrrrr said:
Can you imagine a bunch of guys sitting around trying to develop the correct rating scale for women, as if they were trying to categorize them for whatever reason?
and they re all sitting around in this top-secret lab, working day and night but the harder they work, the more complex the scale gets... "what about this one?"
"i think she s a 7.9879773" "no way! are you blind? she s a 7.9876578" "you guys must be joking... she s obviously a 7.9878763"
 

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Even though "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" we can still make generalizations. And that's what they are. HB10 is a gal who the majority of people will put above a HB9. For you it might be the sweetest girl but if i go around asking hundreds of people I will get the correct rating.
 

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iqqi said:
People say I remind them of Winona Ryder a lot. But hotter. ;) ;) ;)

No one is hotter than Winona Ryder was.





mahon83050 said:
Here is another one of her (the cute one)


This girl is about a 7.5-8 in my book.

I'd give her a 6, maybe 6.5 if the picture is unflattering but that sort of goes into this whole "each scale is personal" thing. For me if you're gonna do a 1-10 scale it has to have some degree of normalization that makes 1,2 and 9,10 vanishingly rare.

Most should be around 5.5 plus or minus 2 ...

So this girl is cuter than the average girl her age on the street here in the Portland area maybe. Or maybe not. For her age she appears to be about average looking.

If you factor out age then it gets a little crazy, maybe she's a 9 compared to all the ancient Asian trolls that you see at the bus stop.
 

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Dilberto said:
Whoa.........what contrast. The asian suffers from major fish-face syndrome. I doubt even make-up would help.

Mahonxxxx.......you are not being EGOCENTRIC here- the caucasian girl is definitely above-average, whereas the below-average mug to your right got smacked hard by the UGLY STICK.

The asian girl seems to suffer from a dentofacial deformity. Remember, the upper and lower jaws play a HUGE role in facial aesthetics.

The red head is definitely cute like you said, but I don't think she fits into the "bombshell category."
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Look at it like this - One man's 1 is another man's 10, but the dominant race/socioeconomic group tends to dictate the physical traits that are to be considered "universally" attractive.

I have my own physical characteristics that i love to see but am not bound by... but on my scale I don't consider girls below a 5 in looks.
 

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Luveno said:
Beauty is eye-catching, as is ugliness.

My scale is 1-10.

5 is average, meaning she would not catch my eye at all in a crowd.

6-10 = there's something about them physically that makes them stand out of a crowd in a positive way.

0-4 = there's something about their physical appearance that is negatively eye-catching.

If anyone is below 5 they do not get any of my consideration.


I asked 8 friends what their standards were, and they all said 8 - 10. Then I asked "What if a 10 wanted to sleep with you but had slept with all the other guys we know? They kissed her, touched everything, did everything with her and to her. Would you still sleep with them the next day or would you sleep with a 5/10 who had only slept with one guy?"

All 8 said they would sleep with the 5/10.

Funny when it affects us our standards change twofold.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
I asked 8 friends what their standards were, and they all said 8 - 10. Then I asked "What if a 10 wanted to sleep with you but had slept with all the other guys we know? They kissed her, touched everything, did everything with her and to her. Would you still sleep with them the next day or would you sleep with a 5/10 who had only slept with one guy?"

All 8 said they would sleep with the 5/10.

Funny when it affects us our standards change twofold.
^^they lied... actually must men will try to sleep with both...
 
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