"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The Trojan War....

dudewut

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NO, its not a condom joke!

So supposedly women like strong men, men who are like bad@ss. And since literature is all about humans and human behavior, primitive and otherwise (heck, even Pook mention some literary classics....oh Don Juan for example) The Trojan war is a confusing thing for me.

So Helen the hottest babe in the world is married to a highly testosteronized Alpha (being King of Sparta too, double Alpha!) that makes sense, women with estrogen likes men with testosterone.

However she runs away with Paris, some Prince (who is not even next in line to the throne) and is a major wuss.

So....does that mean some girls likes betas?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ArcBound

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It's a story bro, I don't think Paris stealing Helen indicates anything about alpha maleness, its just a precursor to starting the Trojan War. Also as cowardly as he is, he is the one that slays Achilles in the end.

According to wikipedia: "

Some years later, Paris, a Trojan prince, came to Sparta to claim Helen, in the guise of a supposed diplomatic mission. Before this journey, Paris had been appointed by Zeus to proclaim the most beautiful goddess. In order to earn his favour, Aphrodite promised Paris the most beautiful woman in the world. Swayed by Aphrodite's offer, Paris chose her as the most beautiful of the goddesses, earning the wrath of Athena and Hera."

So Aphrodite a goddess just made her smitten with him.
 

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is there ever a guy that you can just tell is a sleezebag and tries every which angle, including the crying shoulder to get in your girlfriends pants every time you have a fight? usually pretty good looking in a pvssy feminine way?

Dont you just wanna **** that guy in the face with a sledgehammer?

yeah. same thing. awesome villian makes a more interesting story.
 

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There's another thread right on the first page.. Masculine men and pretty boys.
Paris was a pretty boy and a prince who ... had a lot of experience..
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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