the state of mens life!!!

[DonGorgon]

ok so I have been laying low for a while jut watching and assessing the dating and fuxking situation that most men are facing these days. the situation is grim for 80% of men if ur not in that group be very glad...

ok so this is the deal most cities have an over population of males and beta males at that . these beta males are sedome chosen by women for sex or relationships so many life a quiet desperate life and end up with a 400+ lbs female , end up paying for company , being lonely and some go to the extreme and decide that they are gay and coming out the closet!!!!

these beta males have caused the value of even the ugliest and fattest women to go up to the point were women are now strutting around with attitudes of loyalty. relationships are harder than ever to maintain cause women have soo many options that thy feel and act like they are doing you a favor by being with you...

as these men settle for lower and lower women the overall self esteem and confidence of men is going down causing less motivation

a side effect of all this is that many women are now living the life of an 18 year old well into their 30s and this mean that older women are not good marriage and relationship options as before.

these damaged women now have teenaged daughter who they have taught to use men! they see mom with several boyfriends and **** buddies so its ok .

I don't do relationships any more so I have 3 eff buddies and they all that boyfriends and several other eff buddies !!! they are frequently on the phone with these dudes while servicing me and those dudes are in love and have no clue..

 

[Scars]

Sad truth. Feminism is taking over. Younger woman are growing up with beta male fathers or no fathers at all. Single mothers are teaching their daughters through example that it's okay to be a slvt. Young men are also being raised with no strong father figure so they are taught to bend over backwards to please woman and that being a gentlemen is how you get girls.

Give it a few plus more decades. Then everything will start turning around. They don't realize it now, but these feminists are screwing themselves over just as much as they screw men over. These woman are going to be fvcked once they hit a certain age. Their looks do in fact have an expiration date on them. All the while, men will continue getting fvcked over, it isn't long before they start wising up. It still won't be for awhile though. It's going to take a life time before they see the errors of their ways. Let's just hope for our next generations sake that things decide to fix themselves fairly soon.

 

[DonGorgon]

these is one very big problem - feminism and capitalism go hand in ha d cause womens vaginas are a valuable resource and they have a monopoly and hance lots of power!!! gay men are called "gay" cause thy are happy fhat they don't have to be bound by a need for vagina any more.. but us straight men have no choice but to put up with all types of maddnes jut for the vagina .. lol

I would like to quote a stupid rapper! he said "a quarter million that what the cr cost me . 100 dollars that what the vagina cost me " lol so he buys that car and still ends up paying sluts to f him OMG!!!!!

 

[Scars]

these is one very big problem - feminism and capitalism go hand in ha d cause womens vaginas are a valuable resource and they have a monopoly and hance lots of power!!! gay men are called "gay" cause thy are happy fhat they don't have to be bound by a need for vagina any more.. but us straight men have no choice but to put up with all types of maddnes jut for the vagina .. lol

I would like to quote a stupid rapper! he said "a quarter million that what the cr cost me . 100 dollars that what the vagina cost me " lol so he buys that car and still ends up paying sluts to f him OMG!!!!!

True. But this is a mindset of beta males. I have never payed for sex, and never will. I think once you get it, the value isn't as much as it used to be. And I would say after you bang about 7-8 girls you realize how easy it is to get it. You start developing the mindset that YOU are the prize. That they have to work for YOU. If you walk around with the swagger, and not only act the part.. but prove and BE the part then you become a "high status male". That is all our goals at the end of the day. High status males don't have to pay for sex. They pick and choose who they have sex with.

I don't doubt that many men will lie to themselves and deem themselves "homosexual" just to avoid the complications of woman, but this is not the way to go. There's also still men that pay for sex, or try to take woman out on fancy dinners, rent really nice cars, or show off their money that still fail.

You know what I have to say to that?

More woman for us. The guys that actually "get it".

At the end of the day, I think there is a dividing line. You either get it, or you don't. Ask yourself, which guy are you?

 

[bluenorther]

God Bless the Internet-- THIS is where changes will happen first!

When I was starting out, I searched for knowledge and insight like we have today with the online seduction community. It didn't exist, so I stopped searching.
I have learned more in the past five years about women, about MYSELF, than in all the previous forty years.

 

[DonGorgon]

God Bless the Internet-- THIS is where changes will happen first!

When I was starting out, I searched for knowledge and insight like we have today with the online seduction community. It didn't exist, so I stopped searching.
I have learned more in the past five years about women, about MYSELF, than in all the previous forty years.

yup the Internet bas its pros and cons... there is unlimited information But what matters is how you use it to progress and improve your life

 

[DonGorgon]

I don't lay for sex either I don't even do dates .... lol I just tell them to come chill at my place and watch movies and 80% of the time they f cause they have so many other dudes to take them out on dates and spend money

 

[The Mad Ghost]

these beta males have caused the value of even the ugliest and fattest women to go up to the point were women are now strutting around with attitudes of loyalty. relationships are harder than ever to maintain cause women have soo many options that thy feel and act like they are doing you a favor by being with you

What, you just noticed? I remember not so long ago, You were saying looks matter A WHOLE LOT, even for fat and ugly girls. Now you're saying its Beta Males at the root cause? Dude........................I've been waiting for somebody to post this. Its so strong at the moment, that I feel like throwing in the towel. Just for that fact of not being able to swallow my pride for fat girls.

I think they're worse than average to HB-level girls. Fat and ugly to average girls are running rampant out there. Thats why I was saying we need to all anti-up, all the elders of SS and semi-experienced guys all go out, sarging online and day game. Just so you can get a hunch of what so many novice guys are talking about.

I feel like a burger king wrapper next to a dumpster when fat girls play hard to get. I've had the easier process with girls, so why are they doing that? Why? They act oblivious to their weight. I think this is all BULL..SH1T. I was so happy having the veil over my eyes. Since it got torn off, I've been in a world of sh1t.

 

[DonGorgon]

What, you just noticed? I remember not so long ago, You were saying looks matter A WHOLE LOT, even for fat and ugly girls. Now you're saying its Beta Males at the root cause? Dude........................I've been waiting for somebody to post this. Its so strong at the moment, that I feel like throwing in the towel. Just for that fact of not being able to swallow my pride for fat girls.

I think they're worse than average to HB-level girls. Fat and ugly to average girls are running rampant out there. Thats why I was saying we need to all anti-up, all the elders of SS and semi-experienced guys all go out, sarging online and day game. Just so you can get a hunch of what so many novice guys are talking about.

I feel like a burger king wrapper next to a dumpster when fat girls play hard to get. I've had the easier process with girls, so why are they doing that? Why? They act oblivious to their weight. I think this is all BULL..SH1T. I was so happy having the veil over my eyes. Since it got torn off, I've been in a world of sh1t.

it is less stressful when you don't know what is goin on .... but its getting rediculouse now and hard to ignore its to the point now where ugly girls who are not fat are considdered prizes by many men cause these men know that anything is better than a fatty ... a female friend of mine told me that when a man starts accepting fatties he is one step away from gay.... lol

I have seen situations where dudes settled for fatties thinking that they will have an easier time and not get cheated on only to leRn that even fatties have many men chasing them also an they will also cheat .. lol

oh and looks do matter cause I have noticed that many females will not even listen to what you have to say if they do t think you look good enough... and it doesn't not matterf what you say if they like ur look ... 99% of quick lays are based in looks

 

[nismo-4]

Damn DonGorgon, I missed your posts! I'm filing this under "The state of desperate males"

This is the truth, and sadly, women's value gets higher every day. There are beta, gamma, delta, epsilon, all the way to omega males!

A man's objective is to get a date, relationship, etc. and the woman's objective is to get the money, resources, etc. And she has to choose you 90% of the time.

Even obese and ugly women have more options! Whoopi Goldberg would have a lot of options even if she wasn't famous! Hell, if a chick looked like Myrtle Urkel, she'd have a lot of options! This cougar craze is no help either. They still have to find you attractive to give you a chance, if you didn't get seen getting out of a Maserati.

Nowadays, for the average man, getting a relationship or a date is like hitting the lottery. 10% of the guys are doing 90% of the f**king. FACT!!!

 

[Paintballguy]

Nowadays, for the average man, getting a relationship or a date is like hitting the lottery. 10% of the guys are doing 90% of the f**king. FACT!!!

sad but true. i know guys who would kill to have a gf. it's really pathetic.

 

[nismo-4]

sad but true. i know guys who would kill to have a gf. it's really pathetic.

Men chase, women choose. You gotta be sexy or a millionaire to have the best choosing power.

If a man dumps a woman, she won't be hurt. She may act like it, but trust me, she ain't hurt at all. Enter the Blackberry phonebook with a lot of numbers in it!

Fat and ugly girls have such high value because most guys have trouble with women. Guys know their value will go up as long as they have at least ONE woman of any kind. And since most guys aren't wealthy, they're easily replaceable.

A woman can have a man easily. Just ask. But for a man to have a woman, he has to fill out an application, be attractive, have a certain color eyes, be in a certain profession, be over 6 feet, I mean, Goddamn, it's like trying to get into Harvard Medical School!

 

[BigJimbo]

None of you are willing to admit that America is a part of your problem? America does one hell of a job with propaganda. Impressive until you walk the streets of America and see what Americans look like these days. Then you realize that it doesn't take much to fool what you see out there.

 

[Real Talk]

You should change the title of this thread to "Discussion between frustrated men who don't have their own buns".

 

[Megaman XIV]

Men chase, women choose. You gotta be sexy or a millionaire to have the best choosing power.

If a man dumps a woman, she won't be hurt. She may act like it, but trust me, she ain't hurt at all. Enter the Blackberry phonebook with a lot of numbers in it!

Fat and ugly girls have such high value because most guys have trouble with women. Guys know their value will go up as long as they have at least ONE woman of any kind. And since most guys aren't wealthy, they're easily replaceable.

A woman can have a man easily. Just ask. But for a man to have a woman, he has to fill out an application, be attractive, have a certain color eyes, be in a certain profession, be over 6 feet, I mean, Goddamn, it's like trying to get into Harvard Medical School!

Nismo makes a very valid point. Especially the part that I bolded. Add the last paragraph to that and BOOM! He's spot on! Every bit as much as Scars!

Get equipped with +1 rep!

 

[DonGorgon]

bump for reality

 

[DanelMadr]

If there is something to blame, it is the pill which took away the responsibility in relationships/f@king and prosperity which took away the motivation to get your shyt together.

Feminism and all that shyt is just a byproduct of having too much time to analyze and construct social experiments.

Basically with all that political and economical freedom you can see people for who they really are. Not forced by rules of survival to behave properly.

Nature heals itself. You can see it around. Less children future betas are being born as beta males are hooked on internet porn and beta females on facebook and shopping trying hard to conquer the maternal instinct.

There is no need for rant or cry or revolution, just take care of what you are doing and with whom

 

[Betamax]

Interesting thread as there are some places on this planet where there are actually more women that men per population. This situation flips everything that is written above in this thread.

I lived for a number of years in one of these places in Europe where women chase, and men choose. The fat and ugly women don't even get a look in (they tend to move out of the area). Now I am average in every way - hight, looks, education, job, money in the bank etc etc, but I was getting hit on several times a day, everyday by HB's. Even the betas get laid because the women have to keep lowering their standards all the time.

Hard to believe, but there are such places, and you know what, I learnt how annoying it must be for the HBs around the rest of the planet where there is a higher male/female ratio being hit on all the time by males. It is f**king really annoying. And something else I learnt, when women are 'forced' to chase men they are far better than us at the Game by miles. Also turning down or saying no to women is not as easy as you think, it makes them chase you even more as you are not validating her by rejection. Honestly, I have had a taste of the flip side of the mating/sex game and its not funny at all.

So in certain examples, where there is an opposite over population, Feminism doesn't exist at all.

Now having a lot of HBs chasing you all the time is not a perfect life as you might think it is. Its okay when you are young and want to get a healthy number of notches on your bedpost, but you do end up getting a reputation of being a bit of a male 'slut'.

Also like me, when you get older you want to marry and have a family, the problems start as my wife was going mad and getting really jealous of all the attention I was still getting. In the end it became a major problem, and we had to move out of the area to a more 'normal' city with more males than females.

It reality it would be nice to live in a place with an equal balance of males/females but I don't think this is possible as it seems that its always out of balance one way or another.

I think its like work, you have to move to find work if there is none locally, and the same applies for sex/partners. Get off your arse to find a bit of arse.

... and remember, when you hit on that HB and she blows you out big style, its not you, its just that you are probably the 20th man to hit on her that day - its not personal, it just gets so darn annoying day after day. You have to be different to get noticed. My wife done something different to all the rest and got noticed.

 

[Plinco]

ugly girls are acting this way because things have gotten so bad, however I think they are just new to this attention and are getting pseudo-confident.

 

[Solomon]

dg stop lying

ok so I have been laying low for a while jut watching and assessing the dating and fuxking situation that most men are facing these days. the situation is grim for 80% of men if ur not in that group be very glad...
80% how did you come to the conclusion that dating is bad for 8 out of 10 men? I mean you live in the gay capital of the south, I checked the stat's son, 2 chicks to one dude, your numbers must be of and I got proof(peep the links), on top of that if you figure in the black men that are single and working, you should be making a killing
ok so this is the deal most cities have an over population of males and beta males at that . these beta males are sedome chosen by women for sex or relationships so many life a quiet desperate life and end up with a 400+ lbs female , end up paying for company , being lonely and some go to the extreme and decide that they are gay and coming out the closet!!!!
Hogwash, the higher the population the even balance of women you have sometimes even more women, espeically with the black population considering that for every 4 chicks that get a degree one guy gets one.
these beta males have caused the value of even the ugliest and fattest women to go up to the point were women are now strutting around with attitudes of loyalty. relationships are harder than ever to maintain cause women have soo many options that thy feel and act like they are doing you a favor by being with you...

as these men settle for lower and lower women the overall self esteem and confidence of men is going down causing less motivation

a side effect of all this is that many women are now living the life of an 18 year old well into their 30s and this mean that older women are not good marriage and relationship options as before.
Only part I agree with
these damaged women now have teenaged daughter who they have taught to use men! they see mom with several boyfriends and **** buddies so its ok .

I don't do relationships any more so I have 3 eff buddies and they all that boyfriends and several other eff buddies !!! they are frequently on the phone with these dudes while servicing me and those dudes are in love and have no clue..

Time for some facts!!
http://www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/...nough-men-living-in-atlanta-as-a-single-woman
^^A FEMALE BLOGGER COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LACK OF MEN IN ATL

http://beyondjane.com/relationships/dating/single-females-versus-atlantas-ratio/
^^some numbers for you to think about DG, read the article...

I don't know why your struggling in ATL, I've offered you advice and even linked you to a website were guys in ATL game, and one guy I quote said "I got to many chicks, take some of me" these guys are having a killing out there, and yet your always complaining about the lack of chicks

You think ATL is bad? come out to the midwest, black women in my town are virtually non existent

60% of them have kids
30% are undateable (married, realtionship, old, too young etc)

Don't believe me come out here for your self

p.s. if your a guy who takes care of your shyt i.e. work out, got your money right, dress sharp and has solid game, then this post is already proven obsolete