"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The sex always goes to ****

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in my experience, sex is very much what have you done for me lately with these women. You can get the nastiest borderline narcissistic slut to be writing you love letters about how she wants a future with you and fully commited to you as long as your hitting it right. She will remain attached for about 4-5 days and come back for the sex inevitably. She will be a good girl too. Eventually your ability to **** the **** out of her will wear off once the novelty wears off and she does something that turns you off.

just my personal experience from dating tons of borderlines and hot narcissists over the years. Dump them around the 4-5 week mark and go out like a g with dignity. Wish I would of all these years, spent a lot of time trying to play captain save a hoe with dumb chicks. And time is everything In this game fellas. I cringe at the amount of ***** I passed up on being in stupid relationships in my early and mid 20’s....game everything you can. Date as many women as you can, do not commit before age 30 ..unless it’s for financial gain or you have a girl with great genes you want kids with. Make a list of all the qualities you want in a woman and if she doesn’t check all the boxes next her ass.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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When I got divorced I seriously made a checklist. Both of characteristics I wanted and deal breakers. Women just seemed to cull themselves from my life because I had that conscious mindset.

  • Is she available to commit to a relationship with me?​

  • Do I love her for who she is right now, who she is today?​

  • Does she blame her ex, kids, other people, or circumstances for her life situation?​

  • Is this what I really want?​

  • Would I want to spend the rest of my life with this woman (and her kids and ex) exactly as they are?​

  • Am I afraid to be alone?​

  • Does she talk too much (especially about herself) and tend to monopolize the conversation?​

  • Does she appear to be poor listener?​

  • Do I find myself wanting to “help” or rescue this divorced or divorcing woman because I see her potential?​

  • Is she emotionally distant?​

  • What kind of effort does she make to really connect?​

  • Does she walk her talk? Does what she says about herself appear to match reality?​

  • What am I most attracted to about her?​

  • Do I find myself focusing on one important quality (sex, fun, humor, money, etc), while ignoring unmet relationship requirements?​

  • Do we share values?​

  • Is she pessimistic or negative about things that matter to me?​

  • Does she appear to still be pining for her ex or another past relationship?​
  • ​
  • What do this woman and I have in common?​

  • What are the glaring differences between me and my partner?​

  • Am I avoiding looking at the differences, because of the important things that we have in common?​
  • ​
  • Does she appear to accept feedback, take responsibility, and be willing to self-examine?​

  • Is she honest in dealing with people, money, etc?​

  • Does she appear to lack integrity?​

  • Am I trying to change this woman to fit what I want, instead of accepting her for who she is?​

  • Does it feel like I’m on an emotional roller coaster, and that there is regular and recurring emotional drama in this relationship?​

  • Does this woman tend to react to frustration with anger, rage and/or blame?​

  • Does she try to control everything (including me)?​

  • Would I want this woman to raise my child?​
  • ​
  • Is this woman looking to me to make her life better (especially if her life is particularly problematic?)​
  • ​
  • How is her attitude?​

  • Does she appear to be overly judgmental toward herself or other people?​

  • Does she have an active addition (or addictive disposition)?​

  • If she has an addiction or addictive disposition, does she rationalize it as “not a problem”?​

  • Can I depend on this woman to keep agreements?​

  • Does this woman tend to be immature, impulsive, and/or irresponsible?​

  • Would I want my child to be exactly like my partner?​
 
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LARaiders85 said:
You are correct, identify cluster b fast and be purely selfish in your dating with them. Avoiding altogether is not really an option for some of us.
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you hit the nail on the head. Trying to find an 8 plus that isn’t a npd or bpd is pretty difficult. I moved halfway across the country from a. Superficial city to a small town in the south and still found one lol
 
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2Rocky said:
When I got divorced I seriously made a checklist. Both of characteristics I wanted and deal breakers. Women just seemed to cull themselves from my life because I had that conscious mindset.

  • Is she available to commit to a relationship with me?​

  • Do I love her for who she is right now, who she is today?​

  • Does she blame her ex, kids, other people, or circumstances for her life situation?​

  • Is this what I really want?​

  • Would I want to spend the rest of my life with this woman (and her kids and ex) exactly as they are?​

  • Am I afraid to be alone?​

  • Does she talk too much (especially about herself) and tend to monopolize the conversation?​

  • Does she appear to be poor listener?​

  • Do I find myself wanting to “help” or rescue this divorced or divorcing woman because I see her potential?​

  • Is she emotionally distant?​

  • What kind of effort does she make to really connect?​

  • Does she walk her talk? Does what she says about herself appear to match reality?​

  • What am I most attracted to about her?​

  • Do I find myself focusing on one important quality (sex, fun, humor, money, etc), while ignoring unmet relationship requirements?​

  • Do we share values?​

  • Is she pessimistic or negative about things that matter to me?​

  • Does she appear to still be pining for her ex or another past relationship?​
  • ​
  • What do this woman and I have in common?​

  • What are the glaring differences between me and my partner?​

  • Am I avoiding looking at the differences, because of the important things that we have in common?​
  • ​
  • Does she appear to accept feedback, take responsibility, and be willing to self-examine?​

  • Is she honest in dealing with people, money, etc?​

  • Does she appear to lack integrity?​

  • Am I trying to change this woman to fit what I want, instead of accepting her for who she is?​

  • Does it feel like I’m on an emotional roller coaster, and that there is regular and recurring emotional drama in this relationship?​

  • Does this woman tend to react to frustration with anger, rage and/or blame?​

  • Does she try to control everything (including me)?​

  • Would I want this woman to raise my child?​
  • ​
  • Is this woman looking to me to make her life better (especially if her life is particularly problematic?)​
  • ​
  • How is her attitude?​

  • Does she appear to be overly judgmental toward herself or other people?​

  • Does she have an active addition (or addictive disposition)?​

  • If she has an addiction or addictive disposition, does she rationalize it as “not a problem”?​

  • Can I depend on this woman to keep agreements?​

  • Does this woman tend to be immature, impulsive, and/or irresponsible?​

  • Would I want my child to be exactly like my partner?​
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This is an outstanding checklist.
 
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2Rocky said:
When I got divorced I seriously made a checklist. Both of characteristics I wanted and deal breakers. Women just seemed to cull themselves from my life because I had that conscious mindset.

  • Is she available to commit to a relationship with me?​

  • Do I love her for who she is right now, who she is today?​

  • Does she blame her ex, kids, other people, or circumstances for her life situation?​

  • Is this what I really want?​

  • Would I want to spend the rest of my life with this woman (and her kids and ex) exactly as they are?​

  • Am I afraid to be alone?​

  • Does she talk too much (especially about herself) and tend to monopolize the conversation?​

  • Does she appear to be poor listener?​

  • Do I find myself wanting to “help” or rescue this divorced or divorcing woman because I see her potential?​

  • Is she emotionally distant?​

  • What kind of effort does she make to really connect?​

  • Does she walk her talk? Does what she says about herself appear to match reality?​

  • What am I most attracted to about her?​

  • Do I find myself focusing on one important quality (sex, fun, humor, money, etc), while ignoring unmet relationship requirements?​

  • Do we share values?​

  • Is she pessimistic or negative about things that matter to me?​

  • Does she appear to still be pining for her ex or another past relationship?​
  • ​
  • What do this woman and I have in common?​

  • What are the glaring differences between me and my partner?​

  • Am I avoiding looking at the differences, because of the important things that we have in common?​
  • ​
  • Does she appear to accept feedback, take responsibility, and be willing to self-examine?​

  • Is she honest in dealing with people, money, etc?​

  • Does she appear to lack integrity?​

  • Am I trying to change this woman to fit what I want, instead of accepting her for who she is?​

  • Does it feel like I’m on an emotional roller coaster, and that there is regular and recurring emotional drama in this relationship?​

  • Does this woman tend to react to frustration with anger, rage and/or blame?​

  • Does she try to control everything (including me)?​

  • Would I want this woman to raise my child?​
  • ​
  • Is this woman looking to me to make her life better (especially if her life is particularly problematic?)​
  • ​
  • How is her attitude?​

  • Does she appear to be overly judgmental toward herself or other people?​

  • Does she have an active addition (or addictive disposition)?​

  • If she has an addiction or addictive disposition, does she rationalize it as “not a problem”?​

  • Can I depend on this woman to keep agreements?​

  • Does this woman tend to be immature, impulsive, and/or irresponsible?​

  • Would I want my child to be exactly like my partner?​
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Your list of requirements reminds me of this video:

 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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LARaiders85 said:
Yeah, I mean I have dated some good and attractive women but the numbers and experience don't lie. I have actively tried to date women from good families too. Dating down seems like a good choice, but it doesn't work in practice. They get too insecure and sabotage, they have egos based on different criteria including massive fear of rejection. So, we are stuck in this market where 50% come from broken homes and have developed personality disorders or bare minimum avoidant attachment style. Then you get to the extremely controlling and domineering, incompatible personality types that predominate the remaining 50%.
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And what can you accomplish with a "controlling" and "domineering" type?
 
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LARaiders85 said:
nothing. some younger siblings and mommy issues men like that, but I can't. A woman beautiful inside and out is rare indeed.
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I mentioned in another thread I’ve hit a sweet spot with 6s. They’re cute enough to date, especially if they are fit and get dressed up. They have considerably less ego than 8+.
 
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2Rocky said:
When I got divorced I seriously made a checklist. Both of characteristics I wanted and deal breakers. Women just seemed to cull themselves from my life because I had that conscious mindset.

  • Is she available to commit to a relationship with me?​

  • Do I love her for who she is right now, who she is today?​

  • Does she blame her ex, kids, other people, or circumstances for her life situation?​

  • Is this what I really want?​

  • Would I want to spend the rest of my life with this woman (and her kids and ex) exactly as they are?​

  • Am I afraid to be alone?​

  • Does she talk too much (especially about herself) and tend to monopolize the conversation?​

  • Does she appear to be poor listener?​

  • Do I find myself wanting to “help” or rescue this divorced or divorcing woman because I see her potential?​

  • Is she emotionally distant?​

  • What kind of effort does she make to really connect?​

  • Does she walk her talk? Does what she says about herself appear to match reality?​

  • What am I most attracted to about her?​

  • Do I find myself focusing on one important quality (sex, fun, humor, money, etc), while ignoring unmet relationship requirements?​

  • Do we share values?​

  • Is she pessimistic or negative about things that matter to me?​

  • Does she appear to still be pining for her ex or another past relationship?​
  • ​
  • What do this woman and I have in common?​

  • What are the glaring differences between me and my partner?​

  • Am I avoiding looking at the differences, because of the important things that we have in common?​
  • ​
  • Does she appear to accept feedback, take responsibility, and be willing to self-examine?​

  • Is she honest in dealing with people, money, etc?​

  • Does she appear to lack integrity?​

  • Am I trying to change this woman to fit what I want, instead of accepting her for who she is?​

  • Does it feel like I’m on an emotional roller coaster, and that there is regular and recurring emotional drama in this relationship?​

  • Does this woman tend to react to frustration with anger, rage and/or blame?​

  • Does she try to control everything (including me)?​

  • Would I want this woman to raise my child?​
  • ​
  • Is this woman looking to me to make her life better (especially if her life is particularly problematic?)​
  • ​
  • How is her attitude?​

  • Does she appear to be overly judgmental toward herself or other people?​

  • Does she have an active addition (or addictive disposition)?​

  • If she has an addiction or addictive disposition, does she rationalize it as “not a problem”?​

  • Can I depend on this woman to keep agreements?​

  • Does this woman tend to be immature, impulsive, and/or irresponsible?​

  • Would I want my child to be exactly like my partner?​
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I´m going to print out that checklist and use it.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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