"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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the seemingly unapproacable girl

ss8

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There's this girl,works in a Starbucks, hot but not worth losing sleep over. I want to initiate with her just because I want the experience and she seems like a high maintenance ***** who wouldnt condescend to respond because she doesn't value me as a sexually viable candidate. Obviously I have to talk to her to order coffee, but how can I engage her without her thinking I'm just sniffing around and preferably take her down a notch without being a total prick. I understand this may seem like a pointless or questionable exercise but it's just for practice, experience and not looking for another outcome. Basically I want to talk to her without her getting any validation without me saying something outright rude in the small window at the till.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

devilkingx2

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1. Approaching people who are busy is a bad idea, especially if their job requires them to pretend to be nice to you for profit so they don't get fired and get tipped instead

2. If she doesn't even look kind or approachable isn't approaching her anyway masochistic?

3. Just confidently approach her the way you'd approach anyone else in the daytime, some sort of interesting opener/conversation starter which displays your personality well. If it doesn't go well from the beginning abort mission and talk to other girls (some people are actually nice and sociable but look mean, others are actually mean and sour, don't bother with them)
 

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Yes masochistic but it's like taking on a bigger fighter knowing damn well you won't win but the process takes the edge off the fear and sharpens the teeth for when it might actually matter. Thats what I'm telling myself anyway
 
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