"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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"The Rules"

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What do you think of this book...if you've ever bothered to pick it up? It essentially teaches women "Rules" for catching a man to marry.

Rules like "a woman should never pursue but allow herself to be pursued" etc. A lot of it seems fair considering the stuff masf and this forum teach men.

Your opinion?

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I've read it. It's crap, and nothig that can really "help" us guys on a practical level.

They essentially teach a girl to be a challenge, but the idea can get messed up along the way, and the result is a squad of lifeless drones who turn Bobby into a supplicating AFC... there goes Mr Right for ya!

Only parts I would agree with are those where they tell girls to get out there and be social and take care of themselves. Hey, kinda like here!

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The Rules are a sort of DJ Bible for women who are marriage minded. They work well on AFCs, but they are mean-spirited and rude in a lot of ways. They advocate never returning calls, never paying, not having sex until commitment, and a variety of other things.

After this wonderfully fun courtship of paying, chasing, and putting up with rudeness with little or no sex, you get to buy her a big ring, because she is a "Creature Unlike Any Other" and then settle down with her for the rest of your life. Since she has proven herself adept at using sex as a manipulative tool and has displayed a princess complex, you can bet it will come out during marriage. If you get sick of it, she gets half your stuff.

Can anyone tell me what the man gets from a Rules girl? It isn't sex (Rules girls use it as a tool, not as an expression of desire or intimacy). It isn't love (love and manipulation don't co-exist). It isn't money (you pay for everything with a Rules girl). It is basically something for AFCs to chase believing she is the only one for them.

Most top guys would not fall into this trap and would next the girl pretty early on. The Rules would be devastating on an AFC with oneitis.
 

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They have Rules, you have Rules too. It's all about who sets the frame. If you play in her frame it doesn't matter what your Rules are, and if she plays in yours it wont matter what hers are. It all depends on who the PRIZE is understood to be.

There's only one Rule you need to enforce with a girl like this; the 3 Strikes Rule. If she doesn't put out by the 3rd date - NEXT!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yoh, Sarge:

A bit pessimistic, but you know what? You're right. It all makes sense. Good post
 

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Actually, I like the book, because it helps keep the LSE girls away. Otherwise, I agree with Gonzalo - the Rules are stupid and messed up from the beginning. If it was written for men it would be like that:

1. Walk around dresssed in a suit
2. Drive a mercedes.
3. Be sure the girl doesn't understand at least half the words
you're saying so she thinks you're smart.
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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
There's only one Rule you need to enforce with a girl like this; the 3 Strikes Rule. If she doesn't put out by the 3rd date - NEXT!
Hmm... got LMR (Last Minute Resistance) yesterday from a (cute!) girl. Well, first date. Two to go, heh =)
 

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I think I am dealing with one right now...at least the LMR part...3 dates and 2 isolations on my bed, with basically nothing but kissing to show for it.

This chick is 28! Come on, we aren't 15 anymore.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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"The rules" is rubbish, nothing more than fantasy filler simply because chicks are creatures of emotion and feeling which means following a set pinpointed logical guideline is as useful to them as tits on a bull.

Not to mention chicks know just aswell as us that 99% of guys are clueless with subtleties of "challenge" . She simply cannot afford to be anymore elusive if shes trying to hook a man than the usual game of cat and mouse she already comes equipped with.

"The rules" actually becomes counter-productive to chicks who follow it.
 

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Originally posted by Sargeholic
I think I am dealing with one right now...at least the LMR part...3 dates and 2 isolations on my bed, with basically nothing but kissing to show for it.

This chick is 28! Come on, we aren't 15 anymore.
I FEEL YOU MAN :D

The chick I'm talking about is 27! And I'm 20, goddamnit! haha :)

(what's up between djbr and older women? :) )
 
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