"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"The Rules"

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What do you think of this book...if you've ever bothered to pick it up? It essentially teaches women "Rules" for catching a man to marry.

Rules like "a woman should never pursue but allow herself to be pursued" etc. A lot of it seems fair considering the stuff masf and this forum teach men.

Your opinion?

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I've read it. It's crap, and nothig that can really "help" us guys on a practical level.

They essentially teach a girl to be a challenge, but the idea can get messed up along the way, and the result is a squad of lifeless drones who turn Bobby into a supplicating AFC... there goes Mr Right for ya!

Only parts I would agree with are those where they tell girls to get out there and be social and take care of themselves. Hey, kinda like here!

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The Rules are a sort of DJ Bible for women who are marriage minded. They work well on AFCs, but they are mean-spirited and rude in a lot of ways. They advocate never returning calls, never paying, not having sex until commitment, and a variety of other things.

After this wonderfully fun courtship of paying, chasing, and putting up with rudeness with little or no sex, you get to buy her a big ring, because she is a "Creature Unlike Any Other" and then settle down with her for the rest of your life. Since she has proven herself adept at using sex as a manipulative tool and has displayed a princess complex, you can bet it will come out during marriage. If you get sick of it, she gets half your stuff.

Can anyone tell me what the man gets from a Rules girl? It isn't sex (Rules girls use it as a tool, not as an expression of desire or intimacy). It isn't love (love and manipulation don't co-exist). It isn't money (you pay for everything with a Rules girl). It is basically something for AFCs to chase believing she is the only one for them.

Most top guys would not fall into this trap and would next the girl pretty early on. The Rules would be devastating on an AFC with oneitis.
 

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They have Rules, you have Rules too. It's all about who sets the frame. If you play in her frame it doesn't matter what your Rules are, and if she plays in yours it wont matter what hers are. It all depends on who the PRIZE is understood to be.

There's only one Rule you need to enforce with a girl like this; the 3 Strikes Rule. If she doesn't put out by the 3rd date - NEXT!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yoh, Sarge:

A bit pessimistic, but you know what? You're right. It all makes sense. Good post
 

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Actually, I like the book, because it helps keep the LSE girls away. Otherwise, I agree with Gonzalo - the Rules are stupid and messed up from the beginning. If it was written for men it would be like that:

1. Walk around dresssed in a suit
2. Drive a mercedes.
3. Be sure the girl doesn't understand at least half the words
you're saying so she thinks you're smart.
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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
There's only one Rule you need to enforce with a girl like this; the 3 Strikes Rule. If she doesn't put out by the 3rd date - NEXT!
Hmm... got LMR (Last Minute Resistance) yesterday from a (cute!) girl. Well, first date. Two to go, heh =)
 

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I think I am dealing with one right now...at least the LMR part...3 dates and 2 isolations on my bed, with basically nothing but kissing to show for it.

This chick is 28! Come on, we aren't 15 anymore.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"The rules" is rubbish, nothing more than fantasy filler simply because chicks are creatures of emotion and feeling which means following a set pinpointed logical guideline is as useful to them as tits on a bull.

Not to mention chicks know just aswell as us that 99% of guys are clueless with subtleties of "challenge" . She simply cannot afford to be anymore elusive if shes trying to hook a man than the usual game of cat and mouse she already comes equipped with.

"The rules" actually becomes counter-productive to chicks who follow it.
 

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Originally posted by Sargeholic
I think I am dealing with one right now...at least the LMR part...3 dates and 2 isolations on my bed, with basically nothing but kissing to show for it.

This chick is 28! Come on, we aren't 15 anymore.
I FEEL YOU MAN :D

The chick I'm talking about is 27! And I'm 20, goddamnit! haha :)

(what's up between djbr and older women? :) )
 
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