The rules of highschool never changed in the real world, just evolved

[Thebestthereeveris]

You know how their were the popular outgoing happy sporty highly educated kids and the stoner losers? The hoes that were popular but we're known to sleep around, the gangsters who were about their money and cash and usually did drugs, the nerds who just studied and were alone, and the weirdos. I'll be honest I see the same dynamics in the real adult world just in different ways and people don't want to talk about it cause it seemed like we never grew out of HS but the dynamics are the same. Now the difference is if you were a. Dork in hs you can be a stud in the real world with work. You can be whatever you want with enough time and hard work don't get me wrong.

Now this brings me to this. Know how the highschool good looking football popular stud can basically get any chick and if he were to go for someone "lower" status the girls like kind of stunned and thinking why is he talking to me? Same dynamics in the adult world. Honestly the best position to be in is the popular outgoing educated successful for Good looking happy guy in the real world as well. At that point your in the popular crew. I know this sounds super superficial but it's real.

 

[jhonny9546]

It’s not always the handsome or popular guy, but the one who gives off a sense of "status."


Let me explain. I’ve known this guy since we were 14. Everyone disliked him, not just because he was unattractive, but because he acted like Brad Pitt. His trick? He made friends by sharing secrets, gossiping, and badmouthing others behind their backs.
He once got with a girl by trash-talking her ex, claiming he had a small penis and that he was “better equipped.”


People hated him, yet he was part of a 30-person group, acting like a leader no one could challenge. They were afraid of what he might reveal. He’d pretend to be your friend just to gather info, then make subtle digs in public.
Say you were a good painter and showed him your art. He’d act impressed. Later, in front of everyone:
“Did you hear about that artist whose painting sold for 4 euros? Such a shame, right?”
Everyone would laugh. Now You know that He talked bad about you. When He would use those proiections.
His speech were full of proiections.
Anyway, his goal wasn’t growth, it was finding things like this to fuel his gossip engine. And trust me, he build an entire new social circle on this, making them dependent on bringing news to him, and dependent on his approval and validation


Later, he ended up in politics and now holds a well-paid job in his city. His manipulation has only become more refined, and women love him for it. He’s a complete jerk, and yet, he wins every social interaction, always managing to stay on top, even without leading. He doesn’t create opportunities, he waits to exploit them with his sociopathic charm.


I know three guys like this. All highly successful in life.
So much for those who say gossip and manipulation don’t work. They do. Even good, respectable women fall for them. These guys somehow end up with women from good families, probably because they’re so good at twisting reality that no one sees through it.

Is it wrong? Sure.
Does it attract women? Definitely.
Women may say they want mature, healthy men, but in practice, they’re drawn to whoever meets their needs, no matter the cost.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Childhood is a rough draft of life afterwards. If we're wise, we fine tune/add layers and nuance to it, leave behind an enthralling final product

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

Childhood is a rough draft of life afterwards. If we're wise, we fine tune/add layers and nuance to it, leave behind an enthralling final product

nice words.

 

[zekko]

So much for those who say gossip and manipulation don’t work. They do. Even good, respectable women fall for them. These guys somehow end up with women from good families, probably because they’re so good at twisting reality that no one sees through it.

Oh, women love gossip. I'm surprised there isn't more PUA theory about it, like there is with (some) women's fascination with the paranormal. There's no denying that sharing a juicy tidbit about someone can create a unique bonding experience and give you something interesting to say. I try to be respectful, and keep it to a minimum, but I admit that I will occasionally use this as a tool to help create intimacy. It's a nasty business, gossip, but it can be very powerful. It's saying "I trust you with this" and "This is a secret we are sharing".

 

[MatureDJ]

You know how their were the popular outgoing happy sporty highly educated kids and the stoner losers? The hoes that were popular but we're known to sleep around, the gangsters who were about their money and cash and usually did drugs, the nerds who just studied and were alone, and the weirdos. I'll be honest I see the same dynamics in the real adult world just in different ways and people don't want to talk about it cause it seemed like we never grew out of HS but the dynamics are the same. Now the difference is if you were a. Dork in hs you can be a stud in the real world with work. You can be whatever you want with enough time and hard work don't get me wrong.

Now this brings me to this. Know how the highschool good looking football popular stud can basically get any chick and if he were to go for someone "lower" status the girls like kind of stunned and thinking why is he talking to me? Same dynamics in the adult world. Honestly the best position to be in is the popular outgoing educated successful for Good looking happy guy in the real world as well. At that point your in the popular crew. I know this sounds super superficial but it's real.

So that would mean anyone going to an all-boy's school is destined to live in a sausage factory.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

It’s not always the handsome or popular guy, but the one who gives off a sense of "status."


Let me explain. I’ve known this guy since we were 14. Everyone disliked him, not just because he was unattractive, but because he acted like Brad Pitt. His trick? He made friends by sharing secrets, gossiping, and badmouthing others behind their backs.
He once got with a girl by trash-talking her ex, claiming he had a small penis and that he was “better equipped.”


People hated him, yet he was part of a 30-person group, acting like a leader no one could challenge. They were afraid of what he might reveal. He’d pretend to be your friend just to gather info, then make subtle digs in public.
Say you were a good painter and showed him your art. He’d act impressed. Later, in front of everyone:
“Did you hear about that artist whose painting sold for 4 euros? Such a shame, right?”
Everyone would laugh. Now You know that He talked bad about you. When He would use those proiections.
His speech were full of proiections.
Anyway, his goal wasn’t growth, it was finding things like this to fuel his gossip engine. And trust me, he build an entire new social circle on this, making them dependent on bringing news to him, and dependent on his approval and validation


Later, he ended up in politics and now holds a well-paid job in his city. His manipulation has only become more refined, and women love him for it. He’s a complete jerk, and yet, he wins every social interaction, always managing to stay on top, even without leading. He doesn’t create opportunities, he waits to exploit them with his sociopathic charm.


I know three guys like this. All highly successful in life.
So much for those who say gossip and manipulation don’t work. They do. Even good, respectable women fall for them. These guys somehow end up with women from good families, probably because they’re so good at twisting reality that no one sees through it.

Is it wrong? Sure.
Does it attract women? Definitely.
Women may say they want mature, healthy men, but in practice, they’re drawn to whoever meets their needs, no matter the cost.

Lolz dude Italy is an insane asylum. The rest of the world isn't like this.

 

[Slowhandluke]

highschool is not real life. Highschool promotes "crab in the bucket" mentality. real life allows for so many more possibilities. Those that succeed in real life do not in general wax nostalgic for higjschool.

Elon musk.. Obama... Trump.. whoever you admire. Highschool was only a speed bump for them because in real life you can associate with whoever you want (or at least try). instead of being forced to see the same people (those in your highschool), you decide your environment, your friends, etc... there is no one to give you a "hall pass". You can move across the country or the world.

you can do things and you will face the consequences that society imposes to you, not what the school administrators of some dinky highschool.

Correlation between doing well in highschool and doing well in life? it's weak to "ok". These people that excel in life and do remarkable things? Correlation is low.

 

[MatureDJ]

... instead of being forced to see the same people (those in your highschool), you decide your environment, your friends, etc... there is no one to give you a "hall pass". You can move across the country or the world.

I agree with this. After being forced to look at males all day in my all-male high-school (OK, there were a few nice female teachers there ), and pretty much almost only males in my STEM curriculum and the follow-on STEM career , I made this decision to retire (very) early and co-locate where there was accessible poon (i.e., Eastern Europe). I feel like I'm making up for lost opportunity time in my cumulative life score [pun NOT intended].

 

[MatureDJ]

Lolz dude Italy is an insane asylum. The rest of the world isn't like this.

I've never seen so many men aggressively pinch the asses of blondes walking down a crowded street as I did in Rome.

 

[MatureDJ]

Oh, women love gossip. I'm surprised there isn't more PUA theory about it, like there is with (some) women's fascination with the paranormal. There's no denying that sharing a juicy tidbit about someone can create a unique bonding experience and give you something interesting to say. I try to be respectful, and keep it to a minimum, but I admit that I will occasionally use this as a tool to help create intimacy. It's a nasty business, gossip, but it can be very powerful. It's saying "I trust you with this" and "This is a secret we are sharing".

I had submitted a thread about ParaNormalMaxxing.

 

[MatureDJ]

It’s not always the handsome or popular guy, but the one who gives off a sense of "status."


Let me explain. I’ve known this guy since we were 14. Everyone disliked him, not just because he was unattractive, but because he acted like Brad Pitt. His trick? He made friends by sharing secrets, gossiping, and badmouthing others behind their backs.
He once got with a girl by trash-talking her ex, claiming he had a small penis and that he was “better equipped.”


People hated him, yet he was part of a 30-person group, acting like a leader no one could challenge. They were afraid of what he might reveal. He’d pretend to be your friend just to gather info, then make subtle digs in public.
Say you were a good painter and showed him your art. He’d act impressed. Later, in front of everyone:
“Did you hear about that artist whose painting sold for 4 euros? Such a shame, right?”
Everyone would laugh. Now You know that He talked bad about you. When He would use those proiections.
His speech were full of proiections.
Anyway, his goal wasn’t growth, it was finding things like this to fuel his gossip engine. And trust me, he build an entire new social circle on this, making them dependent on bringing news to him, and dependent on his approval and validation


Later, he ended up in politics and now holds a well-paid job in his city. His manipulation has only become more refined, and women love him for it. He’s a complete jerk, and yet, he wins every social interaction, always managing to stay on top, even without leading. He doesn’t create opportunities, he waits to exploit them with his sociopathic charm.


I know three guys like this. All highly successful in life.
So much for those who say gossip and manipulation don’t work. They do. Even good, respectable women fall for them. These guys somehow end up with women from good families, probably because they’re so good at twisting reality that no one sees through it.

Is it wrong? Sure.
Does it attract women? Definitely.
Women may say they want mature, healthy men, but in practice, they’re drawn to whoever meets their needs, no matter the cost.

Gossip&PissyMaxxing? I'm not buying it.

 

[MatureDJ]

Now this brings me to this. Know how the highschool good looking football popular stud can basically get any chick and if he were to go for someone "lower" status the girls like kind of stunned and thinking why is he talking to me? Same dynamics in the adult world.

This is a feature one of the 2 major tropes of teen movies - the high-school rom-com (e.g., "16 Candles"). The other major trope is the horny teenage sex comedy, a trope that I have always found more entertaining, even though my experience was the exact opposite of that.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I've never seen so many men aggressively pinch the asses of blondes walking down a crowded street as I did in Rome.

But the Pope says Mary trumps Jesus!

 

[CoolWave1331]

Not much changes, people only learn to hide better

Good thing high school is only 4 years. It's small moment in time and doesn't (shouldn't) define your life. Sometimes people don't have good experience - they just need more time to develop. I think it's called late bloomer.

Some never do and just continue making life difficult. Last time I went back to visit my parents in Minnesota I ran into some guys H.S., were "cool" bad guys before, now just bad guys. Some people need to go through same lesson multiple times before finally learn.

H.S. was okay for me, had average experience. I was on wrestling team but was not really popular. I was mostly quiet and focused school work.