"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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feel free to dm me if you ever wnat to network or share some thoughts
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I believe in free speech. This site is ridiculous with its overbearing moderators. This site will fail because your moderators shut down discussions and posts and nitpick over everything you post. In the long run nobody will come here and your site will lose people visiting. Free speech doesnt exist on this site. I encourage all of you to leave this site like I am doing today.
Almost a month later,you’re still here.:lol:
 

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Having been a mod for many years, I know that the experience of the mods, the ban-ees and the members is always vastly different.

Most of the time, the membership is only aware of a disgruntled member’s feelings about his dealings with the mods, and completely unaware of the many factors led up to their being disgruntled.

I’ve yet to see a disgruntled member articulate what really happened with even a speck of accuracy.

The thread always consists of vague terms like “bullying”, “baiting”, etc. During my decade or more as a mod, I know that we always went WAY out of our way to try to keep established members here, even in the midst of blatant disrespect. Finally, after days or weeks of back and forth, when the member simply refused to abide to the rules that we all agreed to, we would eventually have to let him go. The membership is only aware that the guy suddenly disappeared.

Regarding guys who quit, that’s when the threads start about how “unreasonable” and “power-hungry” the mods are. Again, what really happened is always misrepresented or at least underrepresented, and the member who is leaving is usually making a scorched earth exit.

Modding is a thankless job and I know from experience that they absorb a lot of abuse before they act. There needs to be a majority consensus for a significant action to be taken. A closed thread can be appealed, and the mods will certainly listen and reconsider, but they will always act in the best interest of the forum and according to the clearly stated rules.

I would ask the members to always consider the fact that they have limited knowledge of the actual circumstances. I know it seems alarming when a member suddenly shows “banned” under his name, or when someone announces they are leaving, but take it from me, there is always a deeper chain of events. The mods routinely work hard to iron out problems and to avoid having to take any kind of action, even in the midst of abuse and disrespect.

Having said that, showing a little respect to the mods when in a disagreement goes a long way toward a resolution that everyone can live with, just like anything else in life.
 

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Thought you were leaving.....
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Thanks,

I have had moderators and other members reach out to me as well in PM.


I enjoyed my time here, but when the Moderators actually bait, mock and bully the members, it is time to find a different place.

Take care everyone!
I've brought this up before, it's just a loser mentality seeping through, high value men build, losers destroy.
 

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Modding is a thankless job and I know from experience that they absorb a lot of abuse before they act. There needs to be a majority consensus for a significant action to be taken. A closed thread can be appealed, and the mods will certainly listen and reconsider, but they will always act in the best interest of the forum and according to the clearly stated rules.
A mod closed a thread cause someone posted a link from Bitchute. And his argument: Wikipedia said that bitchute is a right wing site, so I'm closing it if that's where your information comes from.

So when I see things like that, I am immediately alarmed.
 

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I guess you’re the leaving police? It’s not that simple. Getting your profile removed is a process. It’s not a one click thing. Plus, he’s not allowed to change his mind?
Do what you say you are going to do or STFU. Don't try to make your partner or other members beg you to stay to stroke your ego.

Same as a GF or plate who threatens to leave....

 

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Do what you say you are going to do or STFU. Don't try to make your partner or other members beg you to stay to stroke your ego.

Same as a GF or plate who threatens to leave....

I disagree, I think a dialogue on this issue is needed
 

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Expecting moderators not to have some bias would be dishonest. But for the most part, they try to keep it to a dull roar.
Agreed. A lot of members have told me in PM that I have mastered the art of introducing content here without going over the line. I can feel the internal anger that a lot of new, younger members have due to the sexual situation of our era. That said, I also feel the "I've just discovered the greatest toy ever" optimism that a lot of new, younger members have at thinking that game can radically change their success rate.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I cant be nitpicked anymore. I get enough of that from women. I come here to try to get relief from the real world but ive realized over time that this site doesnt believe in free speech. Theres great users on here with great advice but whats the point of being on here if I cant express myself and my threads get locked. I just dont see the point anymore.
Agree man this needs to be 100 % free speach site
 

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OP, would you mind elaborating more on why and how you got shut down and discriminated?

To be honest, I came to SS after I got shut down and banned by the SJW & leftards moderators at Loveshack and since I'm here, I was never once shut down or nitpicked or anything. I feel like home here at SS.
Was on LS once too. Same reason I left. SJWs, Leftards, White Knights, & Feminists. Reddit is the same if not worse.
 

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Agreed. A lot of members have told me in PM that I have mastered the art of introducing content here without going over the line. I can feel the internal anger that a lot of new, younger members have due to the sexual situation of our era. That said, I also feel the "I've just discovered the greatest toy ever" optimism that a lot of new, younger members have at thinking that game can radically change their success rate.
Mostly the situation they are frustrated with is because they expect something to happen when they put forth no effort to make it happen.

It would be like people who are frustrated because they are broke with no job sitting in their house complaining nobody is hiring them when they haven't even sent out any resumes or are sending out one resume a week.

I just don't get the mindset of "I deserve something to just fall into my lap without having to work for it".
 

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the fact that this site is still around is impressive i love it here has it been infiltrated by trolls yes but that can happen to any forum
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Agree man this needs to be 100 % free speach site
There's already a place for that, it's called 4chan. You can post anything except what is strictly illegal. So if you can tolerate seeing furries, being constantly insulted, seeing porn and what's worse than porn then 4chan is the place for you.

100% free speech, but you're not going to like it, probably, unless you identify with the degenerates that frequent that site.
 

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Mostly the situation they are frustrated with is because they expect something to happen when they put forth no effort to make it happen.

It would be like people who are frustrated because they are broke with no job sitting in their house complaining nobody is hiring them when they haven't even sent out any resumes or are sending out one resume a week.

I just don't get the mindset of "I deserve something to just fall into my lap without having to work for it".
Strippers have the mindset that they will simply fall in someone's lap and get cash. :rolleyes:
 

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There's already a place for that, it's called 4chan. You can post anything except what is strictly illegal. So if you can tolerate seeing furries, being constantly insulted, seeing porn and what's worse than porn then 4chan is the place for you.

100% free speech, but you're not going to like it, probably, unless you identify with the degenerates that frequent that site.
No I was actually referring on any kind of free speech in terms of political or global subjects.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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