"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

the real challenge: ENJOYING the company of women

dynamicallyidle

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 9, 2006
Messages
207
Reaction score
0
I think most of you are asking the wrong question. It's not so much a matter of "how." It's "why." Do you really want to get to know women? I mean, from the bottom of your heart. Or it something that you feel like you're "obliged" to do? I think most of you feel like it is some sort of obligation. That is the wrong place for your motivations to lie.

Once you enjoy the company of women, everything else should become naturally. Sure, techniques make good guidelines. But there is a player in all of us, that comes out when we feel at ease - when we truly want and enjoy a woman.

So the question is: how do you truly begin to enjoy the company of women so that you WANT to take them to coffee, not primarily for sex, but just to spend time with them? When you learn how to do this with "average" women, your success WILL skyrocket.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

whistler

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 4, 2004
Messages
633
Reaction score
5
Location
New York
dynamicallyidle said:
Once you enjoy the company of women, everything else should become naturally.
That nicely hits the point that many of the guys here seem to have socialization problems. --> i.e., not enough of it while growing up

As it is, they're scared of the unkown, and it shows (to women).
 

DJinTraining06

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 11, 2006
Messages
896
Reaction score
3
I feel like when im really enjoying myself with a woman, is when i do the dumbest things. If i let my guard down, and just enjoy her company i always say somethin stupid or afc. I feel like u dont get the good things in life without hard work and that includes the kind of women we desire. And if u do the hard work and get the girl, u gotta keep it up or she little by little eats u alive and dumps u.
 

dynamicallyidle

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 9, 2006
Messages
207
Reaction score
0
You don't need to let your guard down. That is not necessarily related to really wanting to spend time with a girl.

Honestly, if you feel like you have to "perform," even when you're going out to coffee, why would you want to spend time with a woman beyond sex?
 

DJinTraining06

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 11, 2006
Messages
896
Reaction score
3
dynamicallyidle said:
You don't need to let your guard down. That is not necessarily related to really wanting to spend time with a girl.

Honestly, if you feel like you have to "perform," even when you're going out to coffee, why would you want to spend time with a woman beyond sex?

I dont feel like i have to perfrom cuz ill be bored and just want sex, im just sayin when i enjoy myself it blows up in my face. Like she is on to how much i like her and its over. if im out wiht a cute girl who is mentally stimulating to talk to, we have some laughs, do something fun, have some drinks. I have to keep my gaurd up or i do soemthin damamging.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

Mr. Unique

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 16, 2005
Messages
654
Reaction score
2
Of course we want women. Women = sex, sex = pleasure

But Everyone still loves the feeling of having company around
 
Top