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I do the same kind of over-thinking.

On a rush atm, will try to write more when i have the time

There is a very example in Shawn T Smith Tactical guide to women
I dont remember exactly but it was something like
A women that always needed to be the center of attention and could not stand things otherwise, her bf dad had cancer and needed to talk about it instead of helping him out she created some insignificant issue like her cat was not eating enough and took over the conversation and even getting mad at him because he wanted to talk about his dad.

I think its one of the biggest red flag you can have. For her was childhood trauma that she never even realize was a problem.



It could also be some repress resentment and to them its like revenge for it.


Also doing this is also a characteristic of a narcissistic personality,

Narcissists love to spoil holidays and birthdays because its not about them.
I remember my brother gf getting mad at him because he needed space to deal with our grandma death, she wanted him to deal with it in the way she wanted. So she have been his focus on how to deal with his grieving





Ppl like those are trash
Might acually be disgust at the fact that you are acting weak, might be insecure women that cant handle being in a situation where her proctector is weak
 

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The woman I‘ve mentioned in my previous post created drama on my brothers wedding, that my whole family was in turmoil for months. Damn, was I in shame. When my mother got sick, she tried to force solutions on me. I had circular arguments for hours, which I was only able to escape when I left the house.
I‘m still celebrating, that I got rid of that witch
A bpd or narc prob
 

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Seems like we've reverted back to the "women don't respect weak men" analogy; which I suppose does address one part of this topic, but the other still seems to remain unanswered.

This is about women that otherwise, seem cool, but also seem to delight in a man's blunder(s) .

Let's say that you trip while walking or lose your keys and they were under your nose... yes, these incidents can appear funny of course...
This isn't about ego, insecurities or anything of that sort. After all, we are all going to have a moment or two of clumsiness and forgetfulness.
This is about seeing this subtle gleam of delight in a woman because we exhibited some imperfection.

This isn't some dire question or anything... just a curiosity if others have encountered this and an attempt to understand the psychology behind this behavior.
 

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Seems like we've reverted back to the "women don't respect weak men" analogy; which I suppose does address one part of this topic, but the other still seems to remain unanswered.

This is about women that otherwise, seem cool, but also seem to delight in a man's blunder(s) .

Let's say that you trip while walking or lose your keys and they were under your nose... yes, these incidents can appear funny of course...
This isn't about ego, insecurities or anything of that sort. After all, we are all going to have a moment or two of clumsiness and forgetfulness.
This is about seeing this subtle gleam of delight in a woman because we exhibited some imperfection.

This isn't some dire question or anything... just a curiosity if others have encountered this and an attempt to understand the psychology behind this behavior.
Some of the women were attacking or "reducing" ( or attempting to ) the man the ENTIRE time. Doesn't matter if you came in strong or weak. These type of interactions can only stall or reduce your potential GAIN.
 

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Seems like we've reverted back to the "women don't respect weak men" analogy; which I suppose does address one part of this topic, but the other still seems to remain unanswered.

This is about women that otherwise, seem cool, but also seem to delight in a man's blunder(s) .

Let's say that you trip while walking or lose your keys and they were under your nose... yes, these incidents can appear funny of course...
This isn't about ego, insecurities or anything of that sort. After all, we are all going to have a moment or two of clumsiness and forgetfulness.
This is about seeing this subtle gleam of delight in a woman because we exhibited some imperfection.

This isn't some dire question or anything... just a curiosity if others have encountered this and an attempt to understand the psychology behind this behavior.
Research penis envy like I told you
 

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that's pretty accurate. Sad that it is, but accurate.
This. They're f*cking ruthless when it comes to showing strength. She's literally watching and telling you: "Don't let me catch you slippin' now". The first tear could be your last. They might even feel a little bit of disgust when you show a vulnerability for too long at the wrong time.

You could almost assume that we're inversely correlated to females. We immediately influence how they behave towards us. When we're at our masculine best, holding frame and acting tough, they're feminine, submissive and obedient. In this scenario they wouldn't even dream of acting b*tchy or acting and speaking up. When you show holes in your game, she smells them like a damn bloodhound and transforms into something so disgusting that even demons start having nightmares.

There is definitely a spiritual connection between the two genders that forces an equilibrium by means of the most cold-blooded and relentless behaviors and characteristics when one gender falls short of their given role.
 

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Would it be possible thats its something like

Ahhhh i see you have some imperfection afterall, cute.....


I do that with some awkward things my gf sometime

Is it from amusement or malice?
 

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When driving, I like to do a lot of thinking toward things that I've yet to resolve. Usually, I can reach a solution, but this one is still puzzling.

Years ago, I recall a friend telling me that his wife (whom is now his ex wife) behaved in a manner that he could not understand. His father had passed and he needed time to process and grieve. It was during this time that she became unbearably cruel, heartless and overbearing.

Years later, my mother passed and I encountered identical behavior from a woman that I had been seeing. Did I cry over my mother's death? Sure, but I've never been comfortable showing this emotion and did so privately. Nevertheless, I was probably vulnerable (which, under these circumstances, I believe is normal).

The above also got me to thinking....
I've had plenty of relationships that on the surface seemed very good; accommodating female going out of their way to be present (making dinner, sexually available ironing clothes etc..) but many of them also had one particular thing in common.
They seemed to thrive on watching me fail. This could be as trivial as playing a board game with friends and my losing (I could spot a gleam in their eyes).
With another incident, there was another gal (after a few glasses of wine) that said to me "you always point out your own mistakes before I have a chance to." She said it playfully, but there was a glimmer of frustration in her voice as well.

If I was a controlling, belittling or an abusive type, perhaps I could understand this type behavior, but I don't see this in myself, nor has such behavior ever been pointed out to me. The women I date... do not appear to hate men, nor do they seem to have unresolved issues with men. It's not as though every woman I've been with has behaved in this fashion, but it's also not an isolated experience with just one woman.

I'm sure that there's a psychology behind this, but I've yet reach an understanding.
Any of you encountered women like this and/or have a theory to this particular behavior?
It's the role of men to protect the weak; so, it's difficult for men to understand this aspect of feminine behavior.

Men are attracted to women we want, and women are attracted to men they need. Desire makes men soft, but need often leads to resentment. This resentment can compel an irresistible impulse to torment a man who shows weakness. It would be like you buying your dream car, and discovering it was a lemon.

Of course, it doesn't mean that YOU or any other man is actually a lemon, but women have unrealistic expectations of men: we're supposed to be unflinchingly brave, unfailingly competent, tireless, and indestructible. Anything short of this diminishes her attraction for you, just as your desire for her would be reduced by her coming in and taking a dump, while you're in the shower. You know she craps, but unless you're a freak, you don't want to see it or smell it.

She knows you aren't perfect, and that sometimes you fail, and need help....but, she'd rather you preserve her illusions. She knows you fart; she just doesn't want you to do it in her face, as if she were one your buddies.

Also, women get confused, when they see the shiit men give each other. They don't know that that's how we build armies, and civilizations. We test each other. The classic example is Robin Hood vs Little John. To a woman, it looks like dangerous bullying, but to men, we're just seeing if a new male is worthy of admission into our circle. If he won't stand up for himself, he won't stand up for the group, and is worthless.

For a woman, her tormenting is like you pounding on the dashboard of a truck that just died on you, again, and left you stranded. Women resent their dependence on men, which makes many of them intolerant of even the hint of weakness. It's just a result of a differing worldview. The best response to a woman who's trying to dig at you, is to laugh at her, in a "kids say the darndest things" kind of way. If she does it in company, punish her....but not in a butthurt way...just punish her as you would a child.
 

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Would it be possible thats its something like
Ahhhh i see you have some imperfection afterall, cute.....
I do that with some awkward things my gf sometime
Is it from amusement or malice?
Nah... I wouldn't go as far as to say "malice" but it's not coming for a source of light-heartedness. To paraphrase from an old 80's song... it's almost as if ... they "hate themselves for loving me."

Research penis envy like I told you
re: penis envy - Seems half-baked to me. In actuality, it's likely that I was studying Freud while you were still getting read bedtime stories.
re: "like I told you" -- If your psychology knowledge goes beyond that of the pseudo intellect... then you probably already know the theories linked to men that posture in an over-compensating manner.
 

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My mother died last year and I was dating a quite young girl (who later became my GF). While my mom was dying, I was not at my best. Twice I couldn’t get it up and the girl got angry. ‘You damn well better get some Viagra!’ She knew what was going on, but wouldn’t tolerate my weakness.
 

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Nah... I wouldn't go as far as to say "malice" but it's not coming for a source of light-heartedness. To paraphrase from an old 80's song... it's almost as if ... they "hate themselves for loving me."



re: penis envy - Seems half-baked to me. In actuality, it's likely that I was studying Freud while you were still getting read bedtime stories.
re: "like I told you" -- If your psychology knowledge goes beyond that of the pseudo intellect... then you probably already know the theories linked to men that posture in an over-compensating manner.
You absolute fraud and fake. No wonder you play contrarian.
 

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When we are down and our spirit[frame] is cracking because of emotion AND we self doubt in that moment all of our fortress walls go down and only the child remains. In that moment, we are vulnerable. This riddle does not have an answer in the action/reaction space. Only in the energy/emotion. Men have strong emotions that we try to learn to manage/control and even use.

You tell that this is noticed about ex and or past relations. It is one of the reasons that they are passed or ex.

Women that really join us will walk into the fire with head held high to help/save/support us, the same as a man will. The ones that settled will withdraw when our power gets interrupted(lost job, lost business, lost loved one, sick, and so on..) Those same are all along looking at others and receiving energy from others. We may or may not notice it depending on us, but we definitely can notice when they withdraw due to our power interruption. They settled for our power, and not our presence so when the power dims they look away.
 

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When we are down and our spirit[frame] is cracking because of emotion AND we self doubt in that moment all of our fortress walls go down and only the child remains. In that moment, we are vulnerable. This riddle does not have an answer in the action/reaction space. Only in the energy/emotion. Men have strong emotions that we try to learn to manage/control and even use.

You tell that this is noticed about ex and or past relations. It is one of the reasons that they are passed or ex.

Women that really join us will walk into the fire with head held high to help/save/support us, the same as a man will. The ones that settled will withdraw when our power gets interrupted(lost job, lost business, lost loved one, sick, and so on..) Those same are all along looking at others and receiving energy from others. We may or may not notice it depending on us, but we definitely can notice when they withdraw due to our power interruption. They settled for our power, and not our presence so when the power dims they look away.
Some came for your power and your stuff. Others are firmly entrenched and in your corner.

The one who came for your stuff is covered under "wicked woman" in the bible. She WILL weaken you. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Ecclesiasticus-25-23/

Whereas a strong woman who is good for you will strengthen and add to you.
 

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Some came for your power and your stuff. Others are firmly entrenched and in your corner.

The one who came for your stuff is covered under "wicked woman" in the bible. She WILL weaken you. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Ecclesiasticus-25-23/

Whereas a strong woman who is good for you will strengthen and add to you.
Yes. There is much wisdom in the ancient txt. Some of the things such as this are timeless and also often glossed over. I believe this is a lesson that will not be learned except by experience. Because for the man that has not lived it, he will believe that he and his frame and his arrogance will protect him. Only when experiencing will a man understand. This is one of the most heartbreaking and cruel situations, with long-lasting pain and suffering equal to physical torture. Even for the man who has a harem(lot of plates), this can happen. There is no defense against because it pits the strength of the man against himself. It is done by a creature that looks similar to a man but has a heart and spirit that is from another place. It is ALL about selection, it is important to teach our young men about this so they will select well or only accept selection from worthy women. The success of our sons is MUCH more about this than any degree or other training. If I would ever see this creature with my son I will interfere. It can be seen easily or detected by those that understand even in others who are not our partner, as the energy of other men are accepted by this hungry creature who innocently does nothing to stop or avoid it. Better that the son hates the father then to have his spirit and ability to progress crushed by a creature such as this. The man that has not learned will not see it. I know from first-hand experience; both not knowing and knowing.

I know well that those that have already lived it already know and those that have not will scoff.

A simplified translation in modern words of that txt.

Sirach 25:23-25 Good News Translation (GNT)
23 A bad wife will make her husband gloomy and depressed, and break his heart. Show me a timid man who can never make up his mind, and I will show you a wife who doesn't make her husband happy. 24 Sin began with a woman, and we must all die because of her. 25 Don't let a bad wife have her way, any more than you would allow water to leak from your cistern.
 

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Yes. There is much wisdom in the ancient txt. Some of the things such as this are timeless and also often glossed over. I believe this is a lesson that will not be learned except by experience. Because for the man that has not lived it, he will believe that he and his frame and his arrogance will protect him. Only when experiencing will a man understand. This is one of the most heartbreaking and cruel situations, with long-lasting pain and suffering equal to physical torture. Even for the man who has a harem(lot of plates), this can happen. There is no defense against because it pits the strength of the man against himself. It is done by a creature that looks similar to a man but has a heart and spirit that is from another place. It is ALL about selection, it is important to teach our young men about this so they will select well or only accept selection from worthy women. The success of our sons is MUCH more about this than any degree or other training. If I would ever see this creature with my son I will interfere. It can be seen easily or detected by those that understand even in others who are not our partner, as the energy of other men are accepted by this hungry creature who innocently does nothing to stop or avoid it. Better that the son hates the father then to have his spirit and ability to progress crushed by a creature such as this. The man that has not learned will not see it. I know from first-hand experience; both not knowing and knowing.

I know well that those that have already lived it already know and those that have not will scoff.

A simplified translation in modern words of that txt.

Sirach 25:23-25 Good News Translation (GNT)
23 A bad wife will make her husband gloomy and depressed, and break his heart. Show me a timid man who can never make up his mind, and I will show you a wife who doesn't make her husband happy. 24 Sin began with a woman, and we must all die because of her. 25 Don't let a bad wife have her way, any more than you would allow water to leak from your cistern.
Sirach 25:25 will keep a man good...
 

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My theory has been this:

She wants to see you fail. Which sounds ridiculous but hear me out. Whatever her natural instinct says, it says to get away from you. She needs you to fail, to see the weakness as you say, so she can detach herself.

There have been a lot of stories: “I hurt my back, then lost my job, wife left me”, etc.
I have a childhood friend who is a body builder. Dude is buff as hell, very positive, manly, etc. Couple of years ago he was in a bad car accident, where he was in a coma for a long time. He had to learn how to walk again, his eyes are running a little to the side now. At the time of occurrence his wife was there daily, hoping he survives, and so on. Luckily he did, but they aren’t together anymore, and she is with someone else and brings their daughter for him see here and there. He has been rebuilding his body back, working around the house, etc. I’m proud of him after witnessing this tragedy, but it was hard to believe that the mother of your child was sitting there crying and upset over what had occurred to you, and didn’t give it a chance to see you rebuild, and is with someone else.

As tribes used to be, men and women shared each other for reproduction. Today as we live in this society of “soul mates” and crap, women need to see you fail so they can detach from you. Again this is just my theory and I can be fully wrong about it.
 

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My theory has been this:

She wants to see you fail. Which sounds ridiculous but hear me out. Whatever her natural instinct says, it says to get away from you. She needs you to fail, to see the weakness as you say, so she can detach herself.

There have been a lot of stories: “I hurt my back, then lost my job, wife left me”, etc.
I have a childhood friend who is a body builder. Dude is buff as hell, very positive, manly, etc. Couple of years ago he was in a bad car accident, where he was in a coma for a long time. He had to learn how to walk again, his eyes are running a little to the side now. At the time of occurrence his wife was there daily, hoping he survives, and so on. Luckily he did, but they aren’t together anymore, and she is with someone else and brings their daughter for him see here and there. He has been rebuilding his body back, working around the house, etc. I’m proud of him after witnessing this tragedy, but it was hard to believe that the mother of your child was sitting there crying and upset over what had occurred to you, and didn’t give it a chance to see you rebuild, and is with someone else.

As tribes used to be, men and women shared each other for reproduction. Today as we live in this society of “soul mates” and crap, women need to see you fail so they can detach from you. Again this is just my theory and I can be fully wrong about it.
If they are waiting for you to fail then it's bad energy which makes bad things more likely to happen. This is not a supportive energy that amplifies you. It's a negative energy that fault finds and does not reward. The reverse of this is a wife who likes to see you get better. Likes to see you win. She won't leave your side because your past deeds and actions have value. I know they aren't building them like this anymore.
 

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If they are waiting for you to fail then it's bad energy which makes bad things more likely to happen. This is not a supportive energy that amplifies you. It's a negative energy that fault finds and does not reward. The reverse of this is a wife who likes to see you get better. Likes to see you win. She won't leave your side because your past deeds and actions have value. I know they aren't building them like this anymore.
No they’re not my friend. I remember watching a video like decades ago about a lion that was the most fearful lion that researchers followed. Eventually a younger lion came and fought him. While younger lion had more stamina older like had experience but ran out of energy. He messed up the younger lions face badly, but walked away with his head down as he could no longer fight. The younger lion decided to attack the child lions that were clearly weaker, but the lionesses that had so much respect for the old lion, and not this one attacked this younger lion and tore him apart, and then they growled to call the old lion to come back.

it’s fascinating
 

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I must have a special one then. My grandfather just passed away and I couldn't hold back tears a couple of times when being around a woman I'm seeing. Her maternal side came out and she did what she could to provide comfort. I think it's acceptable to show emotion in situations like this but the important thing is to return to normal. No person man or woman want to be around someone who is moping all the time, no matter what it's about.
 
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