The problem is manly women...

[wifehunter]

They want careers, to call the shots and make the rules, to test and play games, all while trying so hard to be feminine.

Are there any real ladies out there!?!

Why should we just accept that this is the way things are, and deal with it!?! Just to get laid??? Seriously!!!

 

[narcissist]

Sure, there may be a higher proportion of manly women among us nowadays. I don't think a lot of people would argue that. You know, there are women who want to live the career life, and realize that it takes a certain level of dominance and action to proceed in that life.

So, this inevitably means that traditional women - those that are passive and submissive and want to be entirely lead by a man - have become more of an anomaly. I do think they still exist. Of course they do. Its just that the proportions have be shifted. They are a little bit harder to find now, because our society has shifted and women are, for the most part, pushed and urged towards a career life.

Now, there are a couple things you can do in light of this shift in proportions.

1. You can accept it, and to make your life easier you can simply go after the new woman - those that are dominant and career driven. Problems with this option: You may not find a woman that you truly like if your archetypal woman is of the traditional sense.

2. You can reject it, and refuse to go after these women, and be bitter about the fact that the times are changing, and the traditional is changing. Problems with this option: well, I think the problems are obvious. You become bitter and inactive, and go down a path of negativity.

3. You can accept it, but realize that there are still traditional girls out there, and choose to game so fvcking hard, and game so many women, that you get to choose the rare traditional girl over the common career driven girls. But this will require going out and talking to so many women that you are presented with the traditional girl. Problems with this option: You may pedestal the rare traditional girl just in light of them being rare.

So there are problems with all the options, but the last one requires you to be more active, do more game, and ultimately you are the one choosing. In that sense, I would recommend option 3.

 

[wifehunter]

Sure, there may be a higher proportion of manly women among us nowadays. I don't think a lot of people would argue that. You know, there are women who want to live the career life, and realize that it takes a certain level of dominance and action to proceed in that life.

So, this inevitably means that traditional women - those that are passive and submissive and want to be entirely lead by a man - have become more of an anomaly. I do think they still exist. Of course they do. Its just that the proportions have be shifted. They are a little bit harder to find now, because our society has shifted and women are, for the most part, pushed and urged towards a career life.

Now, there are a couple things you can do in light of this shift in proportions.

1. You can accept it, and to make your life easier you can simply go after the new woman - those that are dominant and career driven. Problems with this option: You may not find a woman that you truly like if your archetypal woman is of the traditional sense.

2. You can reject it, and refuse to go after these women, and be bitter about the fact that the times are changing, and the traditional is changing. Problems with this option: well, I think the problems are obvious. You become bitter and inactive, and go down a path of negativity.

3. You can accept it, but realize that there are still traditional girls out there, and choose to game so fvcking hard, and game so many women, that you get to choose the rare traditional girl over the common career driven girls. But this will require going out and talking to so many women that you are presented with the traditional girl. Problems with this option: You may pedestal the rare traditional girl just in light of them being rare.

So there are problems with all the options, but the last one requires you to be more active, do more game, and ultimately you are the one choosing. In that sense, I would recommend option 3.

Thanks the 3rd option seems best. One of my plates (Mexican Catholic Virgin type) is in that category. I wish I was more attracted to her sometimes. Would be nice to have more options. Maybe she'll grow on me.

 

[Roober]

A lot of these "manly women" are still very feminine. They don't always exhibit their feminine energy, but it is definitely there. If you are good, you will bring it out of them.

 

[wifehunter]

A lot of these "manly women" are still very feminine. They don't always exhibit their feminine energy, but it is definitely there. If you are good, you will bring it out of them.

Is too much work, having to squeeze the last drops of femininities out of them, and they also have no family values. They are worthless, as wives.

In the long run, I may be better off with my spicy submissive Mexican chicka or a docile Asian girl. Or maybe, a mysterious persian.

"a wife of noble character, who can find?"

It's true, because I can't.

 

[Roober]

Is too much work, having to squeeze the last drops of femininities out of them, and they also have no family values. They are worthless, as wives.

In the long run, I may be better off with my spicy submissive Mexican chicka or a docile Asian girl. Or maybe, a mysterious persian.

"a wife of noble character, who can find?"

It's true, because I can't.

I think your generalizing a bit too much. Most driven women I have met actually have great relations with their families. If you apply the DJ skills effectively, breaking down her walls will be effortless. Her feminine energy will gradually come to surface. These women tend to be more independent, thereby applying dating principles here will actually benefit you because you are even less available than she is, the hamster wheel will spin faster and faster...

 

[wifehunter]

I think your generalizing a bit too much. Most driven women I have met actually have great relations with their families. If you apply the DJ skills effectively, breaking down her walls will be effortless. Her feminine energy will gradually come to surface. These women tend to be more independent, thereby applying dating principles here will actually benefit you because you are even less available than she is, the hamster wheel will spin faster and faster...

Yeah, it's like being a DJ, turns them into real women. It takes time, patience, and walking away at the drop of a hat

I like hamster wheels!

 

[wifehunter]

This post is full of generalizations. By American women, do you mean white women? Because you mentioned Mexican and Asian women as if they can't be American. And by docile Asian woman, I hope you don't mean Asian women in California. They are among the most superficial, prideful, and high maintenance. Their value has gone through the roof with all the white guys thinking "I need myself a feminine, docile Asian chick." In san francisco, the feminist capital, the white women are practically men. They are so masculine and dominant that they make normal Asian women look extremely feminine. And this raises demand for them, thus raising their egos through the roof. Feminism has screwed up the balances and normal/slightly feminine women are looked at as trophies/water in a desert/rose that somehow grew in concrete.

However, when it comes to foreign tourist chicks I've met, I am blown away by their feminine charms. Especially Russian/eastern European women.

Don't rule out international dating. If I had the resources, I'd definitely expand my horizons beyond typical b1tchy American chicks.

And when it comes to latinas, you are absolutely right. Most latinas I've dated are extremely feminine, highly sexual, and seem to be immune to feminism. All you need is a friggin job and your own place and they are happy with you.

Yeah, in general, white people are not family oriented. I come from a typical white family (poorly behaved).

There are exceotions though...I doubt all white families behave so poorly. Just mine, and most others. I had to cut most of them out of my life. It's a sad reality.

 

[Roober]

This post is full of generalizations. By American women, do you mean white women? Because you mentioned Mexican and Asian women as if they can't be American. And by docile Asian woman, I hope you don't mean Asian women in California. They are among the most superficial, prideful, and high maintenance. Their value has gone through the roof with all the white guys thinking "I need myself a feminine, docile Asian chick." In san francisco, the feminist capital, the white women are practically men. They are so masculine and dominant that they make normal Asian women look extremely feminine. And this raises demand for them, thus raising their egos through the roof. Feminism has screwed up the balances and normal/slightly feminine women are looked at as trophies/water in a desert/rose that somehow grew in concrete.

However, when it comes to foreign tourist chicks I've met, I am blown away by their feminine charms. Especially Russian/eastern European women.

Don't rule out international dating. If I had the resources, I'd definitely expand my horizons beyond typical b1tchy American chicks.

And when it comes to latinas, you are absolutely right. Most latinas I've dated are extremely feminine, highly sexual, and seem to be immune to feminism. All you need is a friggin job and your own place and they are happy with you.

Probably the main reason I like latin women right now... Plus, I like the crazy kind of spicy they bring to the table. White women almost just seem boring in comparison, definitely more on the manly side too.

 

[wifehunter]

Probably the main reason I like latin women right now... Plus, I like the crazy kind of spicy they bring to the table. White women almost just seem boring in comparison, definitely more on the manly side too.

You convinced me that the first girl I ask out is my Mexican chick. And, the other Mexican chick I met, at the 99 cents store, is second on the list.

May have too much fun! Hope they like Chinese food!

 

[Mike32ct]

A lot of these "manly women" are still very feminine. They don't always exhibit their feminine energy, but it is definitely there. If you are good, you will bring it out of them.

As a shy guy, I don't mind a more assertive woman. I almost prefer it somewhat. Obviously, I don't want a bossy ballbuster lol, but there are plenty of confident, assertive women with good jobs that are good people.

 

[Fireballs]

It's one of the reasons I live in Indonesia now .. besides the world class surf, the women are traditional, feminine and stunning.

 

[logicallefty]

They want careers, to call the shots and make the rules, to test and play games, all while trying so hard to be feminine.

Are there any real ladies out there!?!

Why should we just accept that this is the way things are, and deal with it!?! Just to get laid??? Seriously!!!

They want careers with paychecks and power and most of them don't want to do any actual real work to get it. Other than a few elite groups of women like nurses. And a few other ones. Nurses work hard. And they care. That's why they choose that career. But your average typical office worker or service industry woman doesn't do j@ck sh|t of productive work. Then some white night man feels sorry for her for svcking at life so bad, and more so, he wants a piece of poon.. So he promotes her to be the boss, supervising over men doing all the real work she knows nothing about... If he had any b@lls he would boot her azz, or never would have hired her to start..

Are there any real ladies out there? Of course there are, even in America, and it's possible to find them! Just like it's possible for me to take a bag of a few thousand diamonds and go randomly drop them on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean somewhere from a boat... And for you to find one of them.. Or maybe a couple.. Just look really hard on the ocean floor somewhere between London and NYC.

Should WE, as men, accept this? NO.. WE, as men, should quit fvcking allowing it and put women back in there place.. But when I say WE as men that also includes the white nights who are in positions of power and are not and will never be wired in the brain to make this kind of change. But even of those that are and do 'get it', there are too many of them who don't have the b@lls to take any kind of a stand like t his.. So nothing will ever change..

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Thanks the 3rd option seems best. One of my plates (Mexican Catholic Virgin type) is in that category. I wish I was more attracted to her sometimes. Would be nice to have more options. Maybe she'll grow on me.

Get her in the gym with you

 

[Scars]

The problem is SOCIETY fertilizing the thought that women can and should be independent, and other feminist propaganda.

 

[Bingo-Player]

doesnt really bother me

submissive or assertive doesnt matter they're both attracted to the same traits in men

in fact i probably prefer the more assertive type as they're unlikely to be needy which for me is a massive turn off in a woman

 

[wifehunter]

Get her in the gym with you

She has a great body (medium build), its just, that I am more attracted to tiny/petite.

Like I said, I may have to get used to it. I'm definitely attracted.

I'll remember the gym bit, in case there are too many tamales at Christmas time.

 

[wifehunter]

doesnt really bother me

submissive or assertive doesnt matter they're both attracted to the same traits in men

in fact i probably prefer the more assertive type as they're unlikely to be needy which for me is a massive turn off in a woman

It depends, needy in mild sense is good. Too much, is too much work. There has to be a balance.

 

[wifehunter]

They want careers with paychecks and power and most of them don't want to do any actual real work to get it. Other than a few elite groups of women like nurses. And a few other ones. Nurses work hard. And they care. That's why they choose that career. But your average typical office worker or service industry woman doesn't do j@ck sh|t of productive work. Then some white night man feels sorry for her for svcking at life so bad, and more so, he wants a piece of poon.. So he promotes her to be the boss, supervising over men doing all the real work she knows nothing about... If he had any b@lls he would boot her azz, or never would have hired her to start..

Are there any real ladies out there? Of course there are, even in America, and it's possible to find them! Just like it's possible for me to take a bag of a few thousand diamonds and go randomly drop them on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean somewhere from a boat... And for you to find one of them.. Or maybe a couple.. Just look really hard on the ocean floor somewhere between London and NYC.

Should WE, as men, accept this? NO.. WE, as men, should quit fvcking allowing it and put women back in there place.. But when I say WE as men that also includes the white nights who are in positions of power and are not and will never be wired in the brain to make this kind of change. But even of those that are and do 'get it', there are too many of them who don't have the b@lls to take any kind of a stand like t his.. So nothing will ever change..

So what happens when that one guy, who doesn't put up with sh!t, takes a stand and walks away? I'm in uncharted waters, and would like to know of any positive outcomes. Things look hopeless from here.