The Power of Generosity

[bigneil]

There is a fine line between buying a girl at the bar a drink and buying the bartender a drink.

1) On one extreme we have Supplication (bad):

" Think about the stereotypical nice guy at the bar who buys women drinks seconds after meeting them. Is he a value giver or a value taker? In his mind, he's a value giver because he is giving them free drinks, right?

WRONG. He is trying to suck as much value out of that interaction as possible. He's "giving" a drink with the expectation of something in return. Women absolutely hate that. It sucks the life right out of the interaction. He's a value taker!"

2) On the other extreme we have Generosity (good):

"True value giving is a trait of abundance. Your life is full of abundance, so keeping an abundance mentality becomes trivial. Why wouldn't you give value to others? You've got an infinite amount! Not sharing is just cruel!

This abundance mindset is what allows you to give without presumption, without expectation of getting something in return. You enrich the lives of those around you and the world repays you for it.

Value giving is the most powerful and dominant trait of attractive men. More so than dominance, more so than assertiveness, more so than looks. People are drawn to value givers. Be a value giver."

Don't underestimate the power of being generous. Ultimately, as men, it is our job to extract as many resources from the world as possible, and to enrich the lives of as many other people as possible. Seek to be a tree that bears fruit for many years.

Source:

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1gkth6/above_the_game_part_9_giving_back_be_a_value_giver/

 

[TheException]

1) On one extreme we have Supplication (bad):

" Think about the stereotypical nice guy at the bar who buys women drinks seconds after meeting them. Is he a value giver or a value taker? In his mind, he's a value giver because he is giving them free drinks, right?

WRONG. He is trying to suck as much value out of that interaction as possible. He's "giving" a drink with the expectation of something in return. Women absolutely hate that. It sucks the life right out of the interaction.

This is one of the greatest lessons a man can learn. Learning what supplication is and why to not do it. Its transcends women too......supplication is bad in all aspects of life.

 

[VladPatton]

I will have to agree. The strong take care of the weak.

 

[Turuwal]

Massive props for this post bigneil, agree completely!

On a more scientific note, I think what we're trying to approximate here is the cooperation and sharing (of food and sex) that were found in the nomadic people of 10,000 years ago.

 

[Bokanovsky]

What exactly is the point of buying the bartender a drink? Would you buy a hamburger for the person working the register at McDonald's? A pair of jeans for a Walmart sales associate? It seems to me that the only reason you would buy a drink for the bartender is get on their good side...so that you'd get faster service, stronger drinks, etc. And that is not real "generosity", as you are still expecting something in return.

 

[PlayHer Man]

The real power of generosity comes from its ability to keep others dependent on you. By being a resource to others that they can't easily replace.. they become dependent on you and as a result.. they become your slave to a degree.

This is the type of "generosity" men historically used to keep women under control. Since women are highly independent today and can rely on the law and society to support them.. they need individual men a lot less.

The mistake most modern beta fags make is being generous in situations where they don't create a need. Buying sh!t for a woman she can easily buy for herself doesn't make her need you.. thus you are just wasting your money.

In 2014.. you have to ask yourself what you can "give" a woman that she can't easily get from someone else. In most cases (unless you're a top 10% man) the answer is nothing.

So what do you do? Well.. NOTHING. You simply spin plates and make women give as much of themselves TO YOU as possible. This will actually make them more bonded to you because they will want something in return for what they give and they will chase after you to get it. Whatever it is. But that's not your problem.

The best "gift" a man can give a woman today is making her feel useful and important.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The real power of generosity comes from its ability to keep others dependent on you. By being a resource to others that they can't easily replace.. they become dependent on you and as a result.. they become your slave to a degree.

This is the type of "generosity" men historically used to keep women under control. Since women are highly independent today and can rely on the law and society to support them.. they need individual men a lot less.

The mistake most modern beta fags make is being generous in situations where they don't create a need. Buying sh!t for a woman she can easily buy for herself doesn't make her need you.. thus you are just wasting your money.

In 2014.. you have to ask yourself what you can "give" a woman that she can't easily get from someone else. In most cases (unless you're a top 10% man) the answer is nothing.

So what do you do? Well.. NOTHING. You simply spin plates and make women give as much of themselves TO YOU as possible. This will actually make them more bonded to you because they will want something in return for what they give and they will chase after you to get it. Whatever it is. But that's not your problem.

The best "gift" a man can give a woman today is making her feel useful and important.

Agree 100% with PHM. If you want to find a girl who values your "generosity", go to some dirt poor third world country where women gladly spread their legs for a pair of designer jeans. If you are dealing with a modern western woman who has a decent job and/or parents who support her, your generosity means very little, unless you are extremely wealthy (we are talking multimillionaire with private jets and yachts here).

 

[VikingKing]

The real power of generosity comes from its ability to keep others dependent on you. By being a resource to others that they can't easily replace.. they become dependent on you and as a result.. they become your slave to a degree.

This is the type of "generosity" men historically used to keep women under control. Since women are highly independent today and can rely on the law and society to support them.. they need individual men a lot less.

The mistake most modern beta fags make is being generous in situations where they don't create a need. Buying sh!t for a woman she can easily buy for herself doesn't make her need you.. thus you are just wasting your money.

In 2014.. you have to ask yourself what you can "give" a woman that she can't easily get from someone else. In most cases (unless you're a top 10% man) the answer is nothing.

So what do you do? Well.. NOTHING. You simply spin plates and make women give as much of themselves TO YOU as possible. This will actually make them more bonded to you because they will want something in return for what they give and they will chase after you to get it. Whatever it is. But that's not your problem.

The best "gift" a man can give a woman today is making her feel useful and important.

The more a woman invests in you (emotionally, financially, or any other form) , the harder it will be for her to walk away. Its like a gambler, the more coins they put in the machine, or the more chips down on the black jack table the harder it will be for them to walk away, unless they only gamble once in a great while.

 

[VladPatton]

The more a woman invests in you (emotionally, financially, or any other form) , the harder it will be for her to walk away. Its like a gambler, the more coins they put in the machine, or the more chips down on the black jack table the harder it will be for them to walk away, unless they only gamble once in a great while.

As soon as her taco tingles hard enough for another dude, she'll walk away without a hitch.

 

[VikingKing]

As soon as her taco tingles hard enough for another dude, she'll walk away without a hitch.

I suppose most would. But you wouldn't believe some of the bull**** I got away with in the past.

 

[mikey2012]

That's so true. If you can provide them what they can't usually get they be eating out of your hand. This is female hypergamy.

 

[LiveFreeX]

And nowhere does this apply better than in Health Care. God bless Canada.

I hope one day you guys have better access to cheap health care in the states.

 

[bigneil]

What exactly is the point of buying the bartender a drink?

Yes, this deserved clarification.

1) Mainly I just meant you should favor tipping the person working versus spoiling the person lounging.

2) If you learn to pick up hot bartenders you will find that one of the first things they do (after asking your name and extending their hand across the bar to shake yours) is ask you if you want to do a shot together. While I do expect something in return, what I expect is a date, so it's a good deal. I usually just give them a $20 to cover both plus tip. They will make it up to you. Why wouldn't they? Nobody really wants a free pass. They want to do a good job and earn a living. That is why you should spoil anyone you do business with.

3) Also, remember the rule of Valet's - if you ask for change they usually give the you bills they peed on. Just round up. Another good trick is to just budget. Skip the burger, spoil her, and spend the same you would have. You'll be thinner and have one more phone number.

 

[bigneil]

As soon as her taco tingles hard enough for another dude, she'll walk away without a hitch.

Let's translate this to the tree analogy.

"As soon as the bird smells berries from another tree, it will abandon her nest and eggs and fly over to the other tree instead".

The tree doesn't care. It supports many birds. That's why they made harems illegal!

Meanwhile, the bird lost and her offspring will suffer and die as a result. That's why women need welfare/alimony/child support/half your stuff/custody. That is what is really happening with feminism and socialism. It is anti-family.

 

[mikey2012]

Women only want one thing. A rich man. The rest is conversation.