"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sounds a lot like the dating advice given to men. Invest less than her, she'll pursue you if she's high interest, spin plates.
I would mention that, someone was reading our forums here, with is funny really, most dumb men would pursuit her anyway, but if a woman is in such a bad state she HAD to buy a book like this, it wouldn't change sh!t for her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This type of stuff only works with men that are simps. But that is probably 70% of the guys to some extent or another these days.
 

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This type of stuff only works with men that are simps. But that is probably 70% of the guys to some extent or another these days.
Interesting point. Maybe it only works on the guys they don't want. Sort of like how "game" didn't work on the girl Neil Strauss really liked.
 

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Interesting point. Maybe it only works on the guys they don't want. Sort of like how "game" didn't work on the girl Neil Strauss really liked.
I'm hanging around such community online, diary on an OLD site, honestly, full of women in their late past the wall, 20 cats minimum and a lot of fantasies, and of course a lot of beta males. This type of stuff is used by women in their 30s, often late 30s, that are good high 6s, some have kids some don't, and some already have husbands and some are looking. Yes, some appear to have rich beta male husbands. So this stuff must work in some way.
 

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These books make money but change very little.
I don't think there is much difference between the PUA books and sites either. It all seems to be generally the same stuff.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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If you pick a low maintenance wife and both of you live within your means, it's even possible to live on one income, even with 3 kids and 2 dogs at that... Been doing that for the past 10 years...
Same here. I'd even say I've gotten ahead by doing this.
 

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I don't think men have to worry about women reading these books and becoming players, or whatever.
Well, they're miles ahead of us to begin with anyway :)
 
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