"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Just because you didnt get any play doesnt mean jack. All I got last night was a kiss on the cheek. The girl was a "wont kiss on the first date" type but we had fun and I think I'll get her on the second date. Did you have fun with the chics? Thats the most important thing for the first date.

As long as you keep them interested enough for a 2nd date is whats really important. Besides, the girls who give it up on the first date always turn out to be the BPD psychos. I appreciate the girls who would rather take it slow they are the quality ones.
I didn't have much fun. With the first girl it was kind of fun to a point, but it was the first time meeting her and she was a lot bigger and not nearly as attractive as her pics. I got the sense that both these girls wanted to continue drinking without me, and that they would hook up with some other guy they just met like most girls will.

The second girl I met before. I had already started drinking at 8 pm and it was after 12 before I met up with her. Same sh!t. This was for all intents and purpose a hook up meeting. I was tired by that point and just wanted to chill out. She was making bogus excuses not too long after we were hanging out at the bar. I got the sense she was wanting to ditch me and I left her at the bar at 1:30. The crowd wasn't pretty but I got the sense she'd still rather take her chance to hook up with some random.

The hard part is geting girls to meet up. Before, once I got the meet up at a bar it seemed like a hook up was way more likely than 50%. Now it seems like it doesn't happen. Most women will show an interest and get sexual on the first meeting.

I don't even want to hang out with these women again and honestly I doubt they would meet up again. Maybe the first one will. These are just 2 examples.
There are several other women and it's the same scenario. for example I was talking to this one girl up around 1am. reading between the lines she had an impromtu drinking and sexcapade after that, and now that's fallen apart. Women are b!tchy slvts. No matter how fat and ugly they are they have the options that only a rockstar male has.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I didn't have much fun. With the first girl it was kind of fun to a point, but it was the first time meeting her and she was a lo bigger and not nearly as attractive as her pics. I got the sense that both these girls wanted to continue drinking without me, and that they would hook up with some other guy they just met like most girls will.

The second girl I met before. I had already started drinking at 8 pm and it was after 12 before I met up with her. Same sh!t. This was for all intents and purpose a hook up meeting. I was tired by that point and just wanted to chill out. She was making bogus excuses not too long after we were haning out at the bar. I got the sense she was wanting to ditch me and I left her at the bar at 1:30. The crowd wasn't pretty but I got the sense she'd rather take her chance to hook up with some random.

the hard part is geting girls to meet up. Before, once I got the meet up at a bar it seemed like a hook up was way more likely than 50%. Now it seems like it doesn't happen. Most women will show an interest and get sexual on the first meeting.

I don't even want to hang out with these women again and honestly I doubt they would meet up again. Maybe the first one will. these are just 2 examples. there are several other women and it';s the same scenario.

No need to turn in your player card. Most of my dates are duds too, but I've been practicing for a couple years now and I am getting more successful dates and second dates. Never give up practice makes perfect.

I've never been successful at spinning plates but I am hoping this will be the time I succeed. Time will tell. You can't rush these things. I'm tired of catching oneitis for girls who don't deserve it so I must succeed at spinning plates and I'm never giving up until I am banging 3 plates. Right now I am talking to 3 (cougar, brazilian, and work girl) so we will see how it turns out.
 
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I just did something pretty low, but I think it's funny as hell!

The BPD who lied and cheated on me is black (half black but whatever), and one of my new plates is black.

I think it's true when they say once you go black you don't go back.

So my new plate sent me a hot pic to my cell phone and I just forwarded it to the BPD with the title "Its true once you go black you dont go back. What do you think of my new gf?"

I know it's lame, but funny as hell! She hasnt replied but I bet she is irritated. I couldn't resist.
 

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You have some issues, bro.

I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you.
 
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You have some issues, bro.

I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you.
Screw that BPD, lying female. I know my text got under her skin. She deserves it and I dont feel bad at all about sending that pic and text. My new plate is younger AND sexier than her. Let her feel the burn. Maybe she will realize the error of her ways and change.

I DO have issues when people lie and cheat. It really p!sses me off and I'm going to let them know about it. The only reason the BPD feels bad at all is because I called her out on it instead of acting like the usual chumps and not even noticing she is a cheater and a liar.

Maybe the BPD will feel it when she sees I already have a better arm trophy than she will ever be.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hopefully one day you will learn that you cannot exact emotional revenge on someone who doesn't give a sh!t about you.
 
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STR8UP said:
Hopefully one day you will learn that you cannot exact emotional revenge on someone who doesn't give a sh!t about you.

She might not give a sh!t now, but when she gets dumped again and she is alone with 20 cats she might think back and wonder. I just want the b!tch to see I have a new girl better than her. I'm just having fun with it.
 

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Hopefully one day you will learn that you cannot exact emotional revenge on someone who doesn't give a sh!t about you.
Dat's right.
 
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Hopefully one day you will learn that you cannot exact emotional revenge on someone who doesn't give a sh!t about you.

The picture I sent got her to reply (I sent it twice -- she replied after the second time) and she told me to f---ck off. I tried to recover and told her the only reason I am going after that girl is because I miss her, and I said some other gay sh!t and then I said something about meeting up tomorrow, and she agreed all of a sudden. She even mentioned a place and asked me what time so it looks like we have a date.

This is a horrible idea but it's what I wanted for some sick reason. Lets she if she even shows... I dont trust her a lick she could just be playing me and stand me up. Who the hell knows? She said she just got her hair done today and other girlie stuff... She just started getting friendly all of a sudden after I said some more AFC crap.

Remember I sent her all those I love you texts the other night and it was all a game but she believed it. I gotta be careful tomorrow night. For some reason I enjoy this.
 

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30 yr old man behaving like a vindictive schoolgirl... In the Mature Man forum, no less.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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30 yr old man behaving like a vindictive schoolgirl... In the Mature Man forum, no less.

Did you see the part where she replied and we are meeting up tonight?!?!
 

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Is he 30? The girl must be late teen or early 20s or some desperate single mother with no options.
 
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No, the girl is 30 too. We are the exact same age. We went to high school together. We do have a connection from our past so maybe thats why we are both holding on still.

Sometimes these immature games work on the crazies. She still thinks I am a prize. I guess she got jealous when I sent her that pic of the other girl I am chasing.

Never underestimate jealousy. I guess she does care about me a little, and the jealousy brought it out. And then I charmed her by saying the only reason I am chasing that girl is because I am missing her so bad.

She bought it and I am going to tap her good tonight and spin her properly the way I should have always done. I'm not going to ask her, or care what she does when I'm not around. And then continue to chase my other plates. Before I had no other plates and I screwed everything up by getting jealous.

I told her that tonight it will be a "clean slate", and we are starting over and forgetting all the drama like it's the first date.

This is IF she shows up. I dont trust her, and she could be lying and not show up or flake at the last second. She has done it before.
 

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With my limited amount of knowledge on women and BPD girls, even I know this is wrong, and your actions contradict your posts. You say you don't care about her, yet you keep texting/emailing her to try and rub sh1t in her face. I'm sorry but you aren't over her yet, she still has a piece of you. You should both get married so you can play your little games with one another for all of eternity. You're not over her yet, and won't be until you stop contacting her and move on with your life.
 

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Vlad the Drama Queen said:
Did you see the part where she replied and we are meeting up tonight?!?!
Did you see all the advice in this thread???? No, you couldn't have right, because you obviously aren't taking any of it seriously.

Since sosuave is the place to go to when you need others' rational advice to successfully cope with your own irrational life situations, I'm certain the 60+ posts here in this thread must have just dodged your eyes, somehow. You couldn't by chance be intentionally ignoring ALL of it, right?

The entire fvcking forum is in universal agreement that you need to MAN UP and QUIT THIS SCHOOLGIRL DRAMA BULLSHT and CUT THE WHACKJOB (who hurt your pwecious feewings) OUT OF YOUR LIFE... But the entire fvcking forum is apparently talking to a wall.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Did you see all the advice in this thread???? No, you couldn't have right, because you obviously aren't taking any of it seriously.

Since sosuave is the place to go to when you need others' rational advice to successfully cope with your own irrational life situations, I'm certain the 60+ posts here in this thread must have just dodged your eyes, somehow. You couldn't by chance be intentionally ignoring ALL of it, right?

The entire fvcking forum is in universal agreement that you need to MAN UP and QUIT THIS SCHOOLGIRL DRAMA BULLSHT and CUT THE WHACKJOB (who hurt your pwecious feewings) OUT OF YOUR LIFE... But the entire fvcking forum is apparently talking to a wall.

I didn't ignore "all the advice". Jophil said if I can see her without getting attached then I should continue to see her.

Does anyone actually think she shows up tonight? I think she might have a plan to stand me up.

Who knows? It's right by my house so I'll just drive through and see if she is there. I'm not going out of my way.
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
I didn't ignore "all the advice". Jophil said if I can see her without getting attached then I should continue to see her.

Does anyone actually think she shows up tonight? I think she might have a plan to stand me up.

Who knows? It's right by my house so I'll just drive through and see if she is there. I'm not going out of my way.
This is a sign of oneitis. Drive thru checking is a complete sign of AFC oneitis.
 
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This is a sign of oneitis. Drive thru checking is a complete sign of AFC oneitis.

What I meant was I'll show up a bit late and see if her car is there. I'm not going to sit inside and wait for her like a fool if she doesn't show up.
 

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jophil28 said:
Vlad, you are not going to 'win' this . If she is really BPD or some other CLuster B wackjob, then you are taunting the devil. You obviously have not read the overwhelmimg opinon from smarter, more worldly guys on this forum who were still fukked over by a BPD woman.

SOP for dealing with a BPD is No Contact.
hmm
 

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Wow. You are either a really good troll or god help you, you are that clueless and have zero self-awareness that you are shooting yourself in the foot.

Man is defined by his actions, not words. What are your actions, buddy? Look at what you are doing! It doesn't matter what you say and think, you are what you DO. Wake the **** up.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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