"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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THe phone convo

Raikojo17

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ok, i've heard alot of dudes preach the 3 day rule, but that is jus BS. it doesnt raise chicks interest level at all. i've found it jus gets them impatient and they move on wit there lives by then. so i usually wait about a day. but really i dont think it matters how long u wait to call a chick, jus how interesting your are and how interested u get her. wat u guys think?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Phone calls only potentially decrease attraction they do nothing to increase it.
 

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But really i dont think it matters how long u wait to call a chick, jus how interesting your are and how interested u get her.


Exactly. Make sure you use the phone to setup dates and get caught up, don’t use it to develop rapport.
 

everywomanshero

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3 day rule is total crap by way of empirical testing. The very idea behind the 3day rule is insecurity... "She will think I am desperate". That's really paranoid. Chances are guys who think like that really are desperate in the first place. IMO the way to not seem desperate is to not be desperate in the first place.

The other aspect of it... "if she's not interested enough to remember me after 3days, why bother?". That's actually a better line of reasoning for Internet hypothesis, however, empirically it's total crap. Girl's who considered flaking but decided not to based on a goodnight phone call often end up LTRs.

Sinn has a guide to how he does phone game that you can find on mystery's forum, and Juggler has his phone ideas (probably in his ASF archeive). We need to update the bible in this respect.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I usually go by a 2-day rule if the Interest level from our initial meeting is really high. Two days meaning the day after the next day from the day you met.
 

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It's plan and simple,CALL WHEN YOU WANT! If they are interested enough they want you to call.
 

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blinkwatt,

I think you have given poor advice. If every guy here (with a large majority of them being AFCs) called when they WANTED, they'd call her 5 minutes after they got the number. These rules, while they can be broken by an experienced DJ, are there to help AFCs break bad habits.
 
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