The perfect frame for newbies

[tksniper]

“I’m setting myself free”

Remember, you are not trying to impress her.

Ironically, you are not even trying to get laid.

What is setting you back all these years is your pride and ego protection.

So for the next 1000 approaches, your only expectation and intention is “I’m setting my soul free.”

This will allow you to withstand the 1000 rejections
That will surely come.

But after the 1000 rejections, you would be more free than most people.

And from there, you can begin to create a new reality for yourself.

And ironically, the less you care about results, the more likely you will pull.

 

[tksniper]

And this is MANDATORY for all newbies. Go out and get rejected. You have my permission to make a fool out of yourself. It is only when your pride disappears can you truely live.

 

[zekko]

I've never understood how you can call yourself the prize when you've been rejected 1,000 times.

 

[tksniper]

I've never understood how you can call yourself the prize when you've been rejected 1,000 times.

Calling yourself the prize is just an ego thing

No normal sane person goes into a relationship thinking of themselves as “ the prize.” If that’s the case, then I feel bad for the “non prize” lol

 

[corrector]

Suppose you dont get rejected and a girl calls your bluff? You will be in shock and not know what to do. That lady that took you on will be a oneitis and you will feel like you won a lottery. Hardly the prize.

 

[tksniper]

Suppose you dont get rejected and a girl calls your bluff? You will be in shock and not know what to do. That lady that took you on will be a oneitis and you will feel like you won a lottery. Hardly the prize.

The goal is not to get the girl. It is to overcome your own pride and ego protection, which is a sticking point for most guys.

Now, when you have no more pride and ego protection getting in your way, all that really stands in your way is being attractive vs being low value.

 

[CollegeMan22]

Suppose you dont get rejected and a girl calls your bluff? You will be in shock and not know what to do. That lady that took you on will be a oneitis and you will feel like you won a lottery. Hardly the prize.

Bull****. You’ll feel like a champion. And once your successes add up, you’re act of confidence will turn into real confidence, because you know you’ve seduced some pretty f*cking cute girls.

 

[Deranged]

Bull****. You’ll feel like a champion. And once your successes add up, you’re act of confidence will turn into real confidence, because you know you’ve seduced some pretty f*cking cute girls.

I'd also like to add, this is your goal and therefore can base your current frame. The goal at the moment is not to get the girl, like @tksinper mentioned, but to welcome rejection, to create growth, the @atomsmasher special. Your frame and mindset should be rock solid focused on the goal, foregoing the opportunist mindset. You are weak if you've set a goal, but let your frame collapse. Weak is good, it means you're not there yet. Check your ego. Don't beat yourself up, instead rejoice, because now you have a clear definition of what needs to be improved!
This is where you grow and create a healthy ego and self respect; through overcoming a challenge when your constitution, self control, morals and values are tested.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

I've never understood how you can call yourself the prize when you've been rejected 1,000 times.

You make a good point. But telling a potential lay you have been rejected a 1,000 times might not be a good alternative.

 

[Stanley]

You make a good point. But telling a potential lay you have been rejected a 1,000 times might not be a good alternative.

"Hey baby, this dik has been told to hit the road over 1000 times, but maybe you're the one to break my dry spell. Feeling lucky???"

lol

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I've never understood how you can call yourself the prize when you've been rejected 1,000 times.

The same way Edison called himself the inventor of the incandescent light bulb after failing far more than that.

Failure leads to success as long as you learn from it and fail differently next time.

 

[tksniper]

OP says "go out and approach", but he doesn't approach at all.

I approach all the time when women give me eye contact. It’s literally the most “normal” type of game practiced by billions of people in the entire world. It’s probably how your ancestors were able to procreate and why you’re here on this planet.

Why try to reinvent the wheel? There’s 8 billion people in this world. Dating isn’t broken. People are hooking up all day and night and 99% of those interactions probably started when the woman gave the guy the “fvck me” look.

During the pandemic I wore a mask everywhere I went and still got the eye contact because I work out 6 days a week. It’s not that hard to get attention from women. Obviously don’t just work out for female validation. You being fit is just a marker for your own self love, which is what really sparks attraction in women. Women subconsciously react to markers of you taking care of yourself and being high value.

 

[tksniper]

The same way Edison called himself the inventor of the incandescent light bulb after failing far more than that.

Failure leads to success as long as you learn from it and fail differently next time.

In sales, I know for a fact that the road to success is actually 1000 failures.

There’s no rainbows and sunshine reality where someone achieves success without constant failure and having to calibrate to what actually works.

The road to calibration (in anything) is 1000 failures.

 

[zekko]

Suppose you dont get rejected and a girl calls your bluff? You will be in shock and not know what to do.

Ha, I've been in that spot before. Either I was so sure I would be rejected, and was caught completely off guard when I wasn't.
Or I was so focused on trying to get a girl attracted to me, that I would miss it when she was handing me opportunities to hang out with her. I've been so clueless at times it boggles the mind.

 

[tksniper]

Ha, I've been in that spot before. Either I was so sure I would be rejected, and was caught completely off guard when I wasn't.
Or I was so focused on trying to get a girl attracted to me, that I would miss it when she was handing me opportunities to hang out with her. I've been so clueless at times it boggles the mind.

When I first started off I would try to impress every chick that was already attracted to me. And I would just come across as a weirdo. But it’s just social conditioning. Society literally conditions you to figure out what women want.

My frame now with women is the same in sales. I got it from a guy who was the top salesman in the firm. His frame was “im gonna be real with you as long as you’re real with me.” As soon as one party starts playing games, he’s out, he doesn’t even care about the sale.

 

[BorisBeef]

“I’m setting myself free”

Remember, you are not trying to impress her.

Ironically, you are not even trying to get laid.

What is setting you back all these years is your pride and ego protection.

So for the next 1000 approaches, your only expectation and intention is “I’m setting my soul free.”

This will allow you to withstand the 1000 rejections
That will surely come.

But after the 1000 rejections, you would be more free than most people.

And from there, you can begin to create a new reality for yourself.

And ironically, the less you care about results, the more likely you will pull.

I had never seen it that way, it's a new door that you just opened in my mind.

 

[SargeMaximus]

And ironically, the less you care about results, the more likely you will pull.

Not ime. I was a virgin who got approached regularly because I didn’t care for many years.

 

[Gamisch]

I've never understood how you can call yourself the prize when you've been rejected 1,000 times.

Calling yourself the prize is just an ego thing

No normal sane person goes into a relationship thinking of themselves as “ the prize.” If that’s the case, then I feel bad for the “non prize” lol

Wrong. The real players been rejected more than they succeeded.

The infamous Cjad and Tyrone are ;
- not afraid to be rejected but actually kinda like it because its part of the game
- know they are the prize and carry that attitude everywhere they go.

Chad /tyrone might have 4 women on his roster ,go out to the club only to get rejected all night long. But when he does pull he has 5 women. While the " good guys" complain that these women share the same men...these men will laugh at this pov and happily go out to get rejected some more!

If you are working on yourself and you are winning in life you'll KNOW you are indeed THE PRIZE. That means (one of)her best option, and you are only getting better.

The woman you want must look at you as the prize. She doesn't want to explain to you you actually are a winning lottery ticket, and it's impossible to have the right attitude when you are unsure about your damn self.

If you dated enough women you'll know how much trash is out there. How you guys can actively chase tail without feeling like you are on top of the world is beyond me. Most women I meet don't qualify to be more than poosy on speed dail. And the better I am getting and the more I'm growing, the more this discrepancy will show.

I am the fecking prize . That's a minimal mental requirement to date in this era, especially as a man. Ask a hb5 woman and she'll tell you the same. She'll feel like she is special ect. Let along a hb8 or higher. These women will definitely view themselves as the prize.

 

[Gamisch]

Wrong. The real players been rejected more than they succeeded.

The infamous Cjad and Tyrone are ;
- not afraid to be rejected but actually kinda like it because its part of the game
- know they are the prize and carry that attitude everywhere they go.

Chad /tyrone might have 4 women on his roster ,go out to the club only to get rejected all night long. But when he does pull he has 5 women. While the " good guys" complain that these women share the same men...these men will laugh at this pov and happily go out to get rejected some more!

If you are working on yourself and you are winning in life you'll KNOW you are indeed THE PRIZE. That means (one of)her best option, and you are only getting better.

The woman you want must look at you as the prize. She doesn't want to explain to you you actually are a winning lottery ticket, and it's impossible to have the right attitude when you are unsure about your damn self.

If you dated enough women you'll know how much trash is out there. How you guys can actively chase tail without feeling like you are on top of the world is beyond me. Most women I meet don't qualify to be more than poosy on speed dail. And the better I am getting and the more I'm growing, the more this discrepancy will show.

I am the fecking prize . That's a minimal mental requirement to date in this era, especially as a man. Ask a hb5 woman and she'll tell you the same. She'll feel like she is special ect. Let along a hb8 or higher. These women will definitely view themselves as the prize.

This type of attitude and advice is the reason why 63% of men didn't date or had sex last year vs 30 something % of women.

"Just be a good rational person and one day she'll fall out of the sky".

I expect a DJ to know better..you are endlessly studying the game, lifting, styling your crib and clothes, learning skill and making money ect, but yet you feel restricted and afe afraid to call yourself the prize? How come?? I KNOW if I am with a woman she might get a great time and experience.

Thats why I am also not afraid to offer myself to her via approaching. I know what I have to offer. I am like the guy randomly ringing her door because I have this " unique and once in a lifetime offer" for her.

 

[zekko]

If you are working on yourself and you are winning in life you'll KNOW you are indeed THE PRIZE. That means (one of)her best option, and you are only getting better.

Sure, I know the theory, but I just can't help but poke holes in it, because a lot of this PUA stuff always sounds like high school drama to me. Especially since biology doesn't seem to back up Pook's assertation that "I am the great prize to be won". Women are the choosers, men come to them. We approach them and get approved or rejected. It reminds me of what Mystery used to tell his students: "We're all tens". Okay, he's trying to psych them up. But I don't believe in tens. And the fact is, men see most women as desirable, but women see most men as unattractive (there is research to back this up).

Certainly you must be self assured when approaching women. To do otherwise is suicide. Men must be rocks of stability. But I've never felt the need to tell myself that my value was greater than anyone else's in order to communicate or compete with someone.