"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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The Official Boot Camp Results Thread

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ItWasntMe

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GaryUranga said:
how about who the convos were started on, does that matter?
Preferably random people that you have never met in your life.

Quick note to anyone who thinks they can just cheat and up their convos by 1 or 2 to move on in the weeks, cheating in this is just cheating yourself.

EDIT: went to the movies and hit 16 convo's total. Out of the 7 tonight 4 were HB's 8+. Also 'I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry' with Adam Sandler and the rest of the Grandma's Boy crew is funny as hell. I'd give it a 9-9.5/10 for sure.
 
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When does this week end officially? Also was in Va. over weekend and got 2 convos, but didnt really go andywhere, but I didnt want them to anyway so its all good.
 

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hey buddies
I have many girls in my social network now....I think they like me all....and I think I can use this condition to improve the game....last night I really feel that I am the prize and.......
hey I should give myself at least 5 points for eyecontacts ....I am good at it....my problem is approaching.....I will go alone tommorow!!!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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GaryUranga

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talked to 1 HB and 4 random strangers, I was actually "controlling" a group of starngers, there was 1 acquaince that called me to come over and I went, talked to all of them (stangers+acquaince) and the center of the conversation was moi, I asked the questions too, talked to a bus driver, and to some HB2 (yeah she was pretty gross)

Week2:
4/10 convos

Week3:
1/10 convos (I didnt even notice the chick was hot until I satrted talkign to her she was about a HB7.5)
 

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gg, keep it up comrade!

Update: I'm halfway through it. however, i've found a very annoying problem.
There's a lack of hot babes in the malls, public places, etc. So the only place i've been able to talk to them is in my university. enters the problem:
Most of the Hbs there have a boyfriend. The problem with Colombian boyfriends is that they're always on the defensive, and pretty much paranoid about their girls talking to other men that arent very close to them. Out of 12 or so convos, i've only talked with 5 of them without being told to get away by an angry boyfriend and his friends. Any advice? I'm sick of that.
 
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talked to this other HB7.5 today

and ok.. heres somethign interesting, anyone her heard of amleto monacelli? he was the world bowling champ a few years ago and his niece goes to my school and shes about an 8 :p Im gonna talk to her
 

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Nygard said:
gg, keep it up comrade!

Update: I'm halfway through it. however, i've found a very annoying problem.
There's a lack of hot babes in the malls, public places, etc. So the only place i've been able to talk to them is in my university. enters the problem:
Most of the Hbs there have a boyfriend. The problem with Colombian boyfriends is that they're always on the defensive, and pretty much paranoid about their girls talking to other men that arent very close to them. Out of 12 or so convos, i've only talked with 5 of them without being told to get away by an angry boyfriend and his friends. Any advice? I'm sick of that.
Approach girls randomly in the halls when they aren't surrounded by her bf and his buddies.

Navyseal week 2 ended on Sunday and we are now part way through week 3. If you didn't get all 10 convos but got 7+ convos then you can continue this week, if you got 6 or less then I suggest repeating week 2.
 

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I finished last week's 10 convos on time. I'm doing this weeks' convo aproaching girls i'd like to date. Got a number of a very hot girl that appears to be from Poland and she's studying here.Also, another girl that doesnt speak spanish well, so she doesnt have a boyfriend.
Aproaching girls in the halls is nearly impossible because we dont have that many halls, and the only people you'll see there are going to class in a hurry. this university is pretty expensive and we dont have huge amount of students, althought it's pretty big.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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week 2 is over for me, well kinda, did 8 convos, Ima still do those 2 Im missing, as for week 3 Ive only done 2 convos, but tomorrow I get to see all those chicks Im interested in, possibly, if I do I'll increase that number
 

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OMG, last night I was totally AFC around a girl ive been gaming for weeks. I had poor posture, couldnt hold eye contact and didnt smile. Convos were sparse and it was really boring. Cant believe myself right now. She ended up getting picked up by another guy. I think I lose.
 

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hey
it doesn't matter
next one.....don't think about it anymore

(guys I add my points later.don't laugh.I gain some points.)
 

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Yea, im chilling with another girl tommorow, but I don't know how she'll compare really. Anyway congrats on everyone with thier sucesses.
 

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Well I guess it's about time for me to get this started.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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GaryUranga

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I actually approached a girl today she was about a 7? anyways.. this is the first approach Ive done, before it was always me startign conversations in a group setting, she actually seemed to appreciate that I approached her, held a conversation for a bit, it was way easier than I thought.

3/10

might go to the mall soon and get some approaches
 

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Sorry I'm going to lose pace with you guys but I have to repeat week 3 due to some unfortunate circumstances and massive amounts of work I only got in like 3 convo's.

So week 3 for me again:box:
 

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I got 9 convos. I'll get that one tomorrow, so it isnt an issue. I'll read what week 4 is about and what is in for me.
 

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5 convos, repeating, but still chillin with the HB9 ive been working on tommorow.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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