“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The *No Contact* Challenge! ( Read this if you just got dumped)

S. Aureus

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Like I knew, I say hello to her because we were in the same class
Kinda weird, her bff sat behind me so I expected her to sat by her side. But she decide to do by my side, we said hello to each other, mine was a normal "hello" and her was with a big smile.
After that nothing more, felling pretty good except that hour. I felt the rage of why I hate her for a couple of minutes but then decided it wasn't any good so I try to ignore it.
 

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Either you are in denial or your version of No Contact was just a game to toy with her emotions?

You are kidding yourself if you actually believe you have moved on and grown to true indifference.


Look at your posts from a few days earlier. How many CONSECUTIVE DAYS (let alone weeks or months) of indifference have you actually experienced? There is an ebb and flow in the 60 day process where emotions fluctuate, as true AND lasting indifference solidifies.

No offense intended, but from my perspective you barely got your feet even wet. That's ok. We all learn through experience. Sometimes we have to go back into the fire many times before we decide not to anymore.

Countless before you have preemptively ended No Contact only to realize there is way more to it than they had any idea. Thats why there is such focus for at least 60 days of true no contact, no media snooping, etc. It appears that was not exactly your intent. What you put in is what you get out. Don't mistake a day or two of indifference with true indifference. When you see her all over another guy you'll know in your gut, how indifferent you really are.
I see her on a daily basis. I agree that I haven't exactly moved on but I think it's because I have no plates at the moment. What I was feeling a week ago was awful but what I'm feeling now is just desperation. I'm at the point where I can find another girl to replace her. I just think about her because I have no other options at the moment.

Occasional small talk, very little at that, is okay so long as I control myself. I still see her on a daily basis... The key here is to keep looking for new girls and not get hooked.

Maybe I am in denial though, but right now I don't feel like posting about this girl anymore because it seems pointless. I'm confident that I can control myself and find a new girl.

If I bounce back, I'll come back here.
 

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Just wanted you guys know that I'm fully good again. And something I learnt, you might think you are totally over her because you don't think about your relationship anymore, but don't be a fool and look at old photos or think that you can talk again with her. It takes more time than you realize, so keep NC forever, and if it's not possible for whatever reason, keep it for as long as you can. Don't overvalue your own forces!
 

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Well this was a little bit a downhill. She told me hello and ask me my grade in an exam that we just had. Pretty good so far until in a group a photo where she is with a Guy that she was pretty in to.
The girl that i was gonna have to date with a friend and his gf bailes with a pretty good excuse, so my friend and his gf didn't go out also.
Tommorrow will go to a party with a couple of friends but SHE will be there. I will try to have fun and see what will happen.
 

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Pretty good so far. Went out with a friend to the stadium and enjoyed it.
Well, right now i'm nervous. I'll go to a party and I'm sure that I'll see her. So I have kinda of mixed feeling you know guys, i didn't lose just her but my bff.
I expect everything will be great and wont look Like a AFC that I was
 

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Pretty good so far. Went out with a friend to the stadium and enjoyed it.
Well, right now i'm nervous. I'll go to a party and I'm sure that I'll see her. So I have kinda of mixed feeling you know guys, i didn't lose just her but my bff.
I expect everything will be great and wont look Like a AFC that I was
Nah, you just assumed a woman could be a man's best friend. Go out and make some masculine friends, the ones who truly believe in Bros before Hos and you'll be much better off
 

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Nah, you just assumed a woman could be a man's best friend. Go out and make some masculine friends, the ones who truly believe in Bros before Hos and you'll be much better off
Yeah, she was like my best girl friend. But thats true, thanks man
 

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So, after the party and all. Her friends started talking about zhit about me. I went pretty late and some friend told me that she was asking about so i was "Cool, but I don't talk to her for nearly a week" then after half an hour they told me than some of her friends were telling her that I was looking for her all desperate and zhit. That was few minutes after our way crossed and I say hello and nothing else.
Pretty angry because she and her friends made me look like a desperate ****. I will possibly see her tomorrow in class so If that topic come to the table, i will freaking explode.
Btw, she was with another guy holding her hands, the minute I saw her she decided to dont hold it
 

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Just a suggestion but how about a monthly update rather than the day by day stuff which frankly gets old quickly. Thanks in advance.
 

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Day 24 over 45

Even though it's been about 70 days since we've broken up, I don't feel that I'm moved on as I should be.

Today I unfollowed her on Instagram. I know I should've done that long ago but for some reason I didn't. I don't open it regularly anyway and I don't stalk her. I felt me doing so earlier would cause both of us unneeded pain. but eventually you have to break all the connections which can help you move on.
I don't feel good about trying to avoid contact and forcing myself to ignore and forget. you don't even treat friends or stranger that way! this person used to be the whole world for you and now what? you hate each other and call each other names.. I know I don't hate her, we just wanted different things.

My career is going better than great. I exercise daily and hang out with friends most of my free time. all aspects of my life are perfect and yet I can't enjoy any of that. I feel like I lost my soul and my emotions are all dead now. I wonder if I will ever get out of this mindset and be able to live normally again..
That's day 24..
good night all..
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Day 24 over 45

Even though it's been about 70 days since we've broken up, I don't feel that I'm moved on as I should be.

Today I unfollowed her on Instagram. I know I should've done that long ago but for some reason I didn't. I don't open it regularly anyway and I don't stalk her. I felt me doing so earlier would cause both of us unneeded pain. but eventually you have to break all the connections which can help you move on.
I don't feel good about trying to avoid contact and forcing myself to ignore and forget. you don't even treat friends or stranger that way! this person used to be the whole world for you and now what? you hate each other and call each other names.. I know I don't hate her, we just wanted different things.

My career is going better than great. I exercise daily and hang out with friends most of my free time. all aspects of my life are perfect and yet I can't enjoy any of that. I feel like I lost my soul and my emotions are all dead now. I wonder if I will ever get out of this mindset and be able to live normally again..
That's day 24..
good night all..
She used to be the whole world for you – NEWSFLASH. Times change my man. People change. Circumstances change. It’s called Life. Look at a football coach for example. His team might have won the league last season. Now what will happen if he has a bad run of results this season? He will get the chop. Its all about the here and now. The present moment. The past means jack shlt. It’s brutal but it is what it is. Turn it to you advantage.

Worst thing you can do is stalk her social media so it’s good that you have unfollowed her on Instagram.

Your career is going great – tick.
Exercise daily - tick.
Hanging out with friends – tick.

Continually chase these three aspects above and you are golden. It has the opposite effect of chasing a girl because its all about you. Your hurt for this girl is overriding the good things you are doing presently but keep maintaining them and your life will snowball. The hurt for this girl will un-snowball eventually so yes you will get out of this mindset and you will be able to live normally again.

You don’t feel that you’ve moved on? This is the No Contact challenge. Its called this for a reason. It’s a challenge, its tough, its f.cking pain. Its one big Rollercoaster ride. One week your fine, the next week you are crying. Good. It shows you are Human. Hurting. Healing.

The good times you had with that girl and the attraction she had is officially dead. Its not coming back. She was just a passing boat. Let that sink in. When that boat has gone into the distance you will eventually that it was just a boat. Bigger and better ones are always on the horizon.

Its not called the No Contact easy piece of plss simple ride. It would be good if it was that, but let me ask you – what would you really learn if someone was easy to achieve.

Take pride that you sought advice from the posters on here. We have all experienced what you are going through. We know exactly what your going through.

You will be fine dude. As others have said, read the DJ bible.

Pain is temporary. Self-respect is permament.

Good luck!
 
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She used to be the whole world for you – NEWSFLASH. Times change my man. People change. Circumstances change. It’s called Life. Look at a football coach for example. His team might have won the league last season. Now what will happen if he has a bad run of results this season? He will get the chop. Its all about the here and now. The present moment. The past means jack shlt. It’s brutal but it is what it is. Turn it to you advantage.

Worst thing you can do is stalk her social media so it’s good that you have unfollowed her on Instagram.

Your career is going great – tick.
Exercise daily - tick.
Hanging out with friends – tick.

Continually chase these three aspects above and you are golden. It has the opposite effect of chasing a girl because its all about you. Your hurt for this girl is overriding the good things you are doing presently but keep maintaining them and your life will snowball. The hurt for this girl will un-snowball eventually so yes you will get out of this mindset and you will be able to live normally again.

You don’t feel that you’ve moved on? This is the No Contact challenge. Its called this for a reason. It’s a challenge, its tough, its f.cking pain. Its one big Rollercoaster ride. One week your fine, the next week you are crying. Good. It shows you are Human. Hurting. Healing.

The good times you had with that girl and the attraction she had is officially dead. Its not coming back. She was just a passing boat. Let that sink in. When that boat has gone into the distance you will eventually that it was just a boat. Bigger and better ones are always on the horizon.

Its not called the No Contact easy piece of plss simple ride. It would be good if it was that, but let me ask you – what would you really learn if someone was easy to achieve.

Take pride that you sought advice from the posters on here. We have all experienced what you are going through. We know exactly what your going through.

You will be fine dude. As others have said, read the DJ bible.

Pain is temporary. Self-respect is permament.

Good luck!
Thank you very much for such motivating and helpful words. you guys are the best, I hope you all are doing well.
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Day 25 over 45

I found out that some girl I know is interested in me, she texted me with hidden meaning message, then we flirted back and forth but I'm not genuinely interested in her. even though she's very nice and cute, I don't think I'm ready to date girls yet.

What makes the breakup harder is the fact that even though it was agreed upon by both of us since we wanted different things, deep inside we know it's not what we really want. she knows that I still love her and I know she does too.

25 days ago she texted me saying she misses me. knowing this girl she would never think of doing so unless she can't take it any longer as she takes pride and it's not like her to show the weak side of hers. one of us had to think rationally because this won't do any of us good. I didn't say it back even though it was killing me after 45 days to tell her just how much I miss her. I had to be strong and tough so we both can move on.
I still remember when I assured her that I will always stay by her side, my absence caused her pain and yet I couldn't even comfort her when she came back to me.. I had to be tough on the girl who I promised I will never hurt no matter what.. God knows I cried myself to sleep that night.
so, another day went by. I hope day 26 will be easier.
night all..
 

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After I unfollowed her on Instagram, she blocked me which isn't something I didn't expect. at first I felt relieved like we're finally able to move on.
for some reason I can't help but to remember every detail from our relationship. things I thought I've forgotten are flooding back and torturing me. Even when I'm hanging with my friends I can't stop thinking about the whole breakup thing. It's hard and painful now more than any other day I had during the 2 months of our breakup. I feel worse than day1..
I don't know if I miss her or I miss the good days we had, but I really and truly miss being with her.
even though I've had few relationships and breakups before, (I'm 25) this is the first time I feel troubled with a breakup. I thought this girl was the one. I loved her from the bottom of my heart and God knows I still do.
I hope this NC works. so far I don't feel it's helping me very much.
 

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It takes time Grasshopper. We have all been there. The flashbacks never really go away, but the pain that is associated with the memories does fade to a dull ache after awhile. Don't panic, don't doubt yourself or the decision. I won't insult you by saying go find another and everything will be peachy because it won't. The old saying of time heals all is very appropriate when it comes to heartbreak. One other thing: the more you post about it, the longer you will hang on to the memories and the pain. Self discipline is your friend. Trust me on this, as I am more than double your age and still do stupid things when it comes to the opposite sex....But I do know you will get through this as there really is no option. Be at peace.
 

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It takes time Grasshopper. We have all been there. The flashbacks never really go away, but the pain that is associated with the memories does fade to a dull ache after awhile. Don't panic, don't doubt yourself or the decision. I won't insult you by saying go find another and everything will be peachy because it won't. The old saying of time heals all is very appropriate when it comes to heartbreak. One other thing: the more you post about it, the longer you will hang on to the memories and the pain. Self discipline is your friend. Trust me on this, as I am more than double your age and still do stupid things when it comes to the opposite sex....But I do know you will get through this as there really is no option. Be at peace.
Amen to that.. thank you bro I really appreciate it. I find it very helpful everything you guys say..

Anyway, Day 27 wasn't easy as I hoped for, although I started thinking rationally about the whole situation..
Consider this: the last time the girl talked to me (27 days ago after 45 of NC) she said she misses me, and she made clear signs that she wants us to get back together, I have no doubt that she wanted that and I am pretty sure she still wants it now.. the point is I don't think it's a good idea because even though I love her as much as I do, I don't see a future with her. you see I'm not going NC trying to get her back, I just want to heal and forget which isn't easy because I'm still into her, and because I can get back with her if I want, and ultimately, because the last time she spoke to me my response was harsh and I hate myself for what I did and what I said, every time I remember how our wonderful relationship ended I feel worse, why can't we end things on good terms instead of blocking each other on social media and try to make each other miserable?.

Do you think it's a good idea to contact her? I don't want to get back with her but basically I want to say what's bothering me about the whole situation which I believe she will understand. I want to make it clear that I didn't mean to be rude, I admire what we had but this is the best for both of us. in a word: I need closure..
I know you guys are strict about sticking to NC. but consider it from my point of view. it's torturing me because I can't hate her even if I wanted to..
anyway, sorry for the long reply but I've been keeping alot of this on my chest for a while.
Good night all..
 

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Taking the plunge here because I need support.

Not sure how much of the story I should outline, but I did a pretty beta thing and cheated on my wife of 4 years (I'm 35) with one of my students (23). Tough to explain why, my wife is a great catch. I will say this, and I admit this is f*cked up: I am a relatively inexperienced guy, and the connection I made with the student was literally the first second I saw her. I've read that perhaps our genes know what other person is right for us, but I feel super pathetic even talking about this. Regardless, this "chemistry," real or not, doesn't last and since it's not conscious it doesn't require the other person not to be a piece of rubbish.

So, I cheat with this girl for two months, wife finds out, I'm tossed from the house. Girl starts getting really distant and I foolishly didn't realize she was losing interest.

Flake #1: We make plans, she cancels the day before, but her cancellation didn't even effect the event, so I told her no worries we weren't going until 3ish anyways. She says cool, then flakes again but says "come around when you're done." I come around later, she says she's at dinner with her best friend. Should have ended it right there. I went no-contact on her for weeks over Christmas, eventually she sends me a crazy e-mail saying sorry, the wife finding out messed her up. The e-mail is confused and confusing, so a week later i tell her thanks for the memories, good luck.

She insta-responds, like two minutes later, "OMG No! Sex with you is the best ever, there are so many things I want to try. Can we get lunch? I will swallow my pride (and something else)." Huge mistake by me: I responded enthusiastically right off the bat. We made plans to get together three days later, the first available time.

Flake #2: She bails on me 1.5 hours before event, says she's hungover from the night before, am I available next week? I foolishly respond, "LOL, I have lots to do today anyways, but it seems like planned events aren't working for us, hit me up when you're feeling spontaneous."

I no-contacted her for 23 days, she did not contact me. I broke yesterday evening and invited her out to watch me perform stand-up at an open mic tonight at 9:30, something we had talked about doing together. After I sent the text, she responded immediately, "Awesome! That's so cool, glad you're doing it." One minute later: "Unfortunately I'm having dinner with my friend." (*FWIW, the most skilled player I know thinks I shouldn't give up on this one based on her response time, he thinks I'm getting to her. He says just invite her out next time you want to do something yourself and who gives a **** if she shows, she might. I'm partial to this as it's a freeroll, but I my psyche is in such a bad spot I just need to let this one go. Plus, if you look at the history, it looks bad for me.)

I need to go no contact for real, for myself. Everything I've done up to this point has been to manipulate. This girl is in my head so bad, I have the worst case of oneitis I've ever had. Honestly, my game hasn't even been that bad since I've been out of it for ten years.

FWIW, I have been hitting the gym hard, going out at night, and doing all of the things you are supposed to do. But I have major approach anxiety, so I mostly just sit around in bars trying to figure out what to do. And I hate drinking. I should probably just transition to daygame but I just get scared. So I'm already doing well in post-divorce, no contact mode, but I really, really need to make sure I don't contact her ever again, even if she contacts me.

I know there's a lot of affair stuff going on here but I don't need anyone to focus on that stuff, really.

Thanks for your help, I'll make sure I participate for others as well.

Here we go, today is Day One.
 

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Amen to that.. thank you bro I really appreciate it. I find it very helpful everything you guys say..

Anyway, Day 27 wasn't easy as I hoped for, although I started thinking rationally about the whole situation..
Consider this: the last time the girl talked to me (27 days ago after 45 of NC) she said she misses me, and she made clear signs that she wants us to get back together, I have no doubt that she wanted that and I am pretty sure she still wants it now.. the point is I don't think it's a good idea because even though I love her as much as I do, I don't see a future with her. you see I'm not going NC trying to get her back, I just want to heal and forget which isn't easy because I'm still into her, and because I can get back with her if I want, and ultimately, because the last time she spoke to me my response was harsh and I hate myself for what I did and what I said, every time I remember how our wonderful relationship ended I feel worse, why can't we end things on good terms instead of blocking each other on social media and try to make each other miserable?.

Do you think it's a good idea to contact her? I don't want to get back with her but basically I want to say what's bothering me about the whole situation which I believe she will understand. I want to make it clear that I didn't mean to be rude, I admire what we had but this is the best for both of us. in a word: I need closure..
I know you guys are strict about sticking to NC. but consider it from my point of view. it's torturing me because I can't hate her even if I wanted to..
anyway, sorry for the long reply but I've been keeping alot of this on my chest for a while.
Good night all..
I don't know if you are thinking rationally. I think if you really want to be friends, that will be possible in the future. Right now you are still pining even though you know you won't take her back. I think the closure you need comes from within, and only time will bring it.
 

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Day 13
So she contacted me but it was kinda forced. Today is my birthday and she told me to have a great day, bless and those things through a text. I simply wrote her a thanks and nothing else.
Also I'll have a party at my house so I invited all of my friends including friends of our same circle except her. Some people said to me that I was cold but I know that it was the right thing to do. It's my day and I don't want her in my house trying to ruin a really good day that I'll have
 
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So she contacted me but it was kinda forced. Today is my birthday and she told me to have a great day, bless and those things through a text. I simply wrote her a thanks and nothing else.
Also I'll have a party at my house so I invited all of my friends including friends of our same circle except her. Some people said to me that I was cold but I know that it was the right thing to do. It's my day and I don't want her in my house trying to ruin a really good day that I'll have
I do agree with you, you should avoid any contact with her if you want to move on. However, If I were you I wouldn't do things that might be considered cold or inconsiderate on purpose to hurt her unless she's really a terrible person who made you suffer. I wouldn't hurt my ex for the sake of old days.. isn't it enough that you're moving on with your life and getting new hopes?..
Anyway, it seems that you're doing well on day 13, good luck bro
 

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#Day 29

Time is really flying by.. time gives you the ability and the space to think what happened over and to focus on the mistakes you made during your relationship. I don't know why, but I figured we have problems when it comes to relationships, breakups and NCs.. we live in denial and that's not a good way to deal with things. take me as an example..

In order to accept the breakup and feel better about it, I keep telling myself that girl is no good for me.. I concentrate on her flaws and things that made us breakup regardless of all the good qualities she possesses..
otherwise why would I spend a whole year with her and consider it the best time I've spent with a girl ever?!.. -DENIAL-

In order to keep my NC, I just look for things that I think might fill the gap in my life she left behind..
but the truth is I feel empty inside, I don't think that anything can replace her in my life.. but I keep trying to convince myself that I'm doing okay -DENIAL-

maybe we just have to deal with the fact that **** happens whether we accept them or not, but life goes on..
I miss her alot, I'm getting used to it, but I don't feel good about it..
I would like to hear your opinion on this guys..
Good night for now..
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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