Zion
Senior Don Juan
No doubt.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
LMAO!WeakNoMore said:So I decided she shouldnt come back for the last week at our place so I'm locking her out and leaving her stuff in the back yard. She can find out about that when she gets back from her honeymoon.
I'm packing up all her s**t last nite but had a couple of drinks while doing it. Ended up carving LIAR and CHEAT all over the expensive desk that she loves.
Taped a photo of a big gash and bruise she gave me when she smashed my guitar over me one time. Then I smashed up what was left of the guitar on the desk & put the pieces in the drawers for her.
I wrote "you bashed my body I bashed your ****"
Then I wrapped the top and sides with protective cardboard so you cant see anything & like I packed it real carefully. So she gets a nice surprise when she opens it :rock:
It's kinda a big statement but I was pissed off like nothing on earth. Slept like a baby after that.
Does that count as breaking NC?
Usually I don't agree with this kind of thing ,but in this particular case I'm giving you a virtual high-five. :crackup:WeakNoMore said:So I decided she shouldnt come back for the last week at our place so I'm locking her out and leaving her stuff in the back yard. She can find out about that when she gets back from her honeymoon.
I'm packing up all her s**t last nite but had a couple of drinks while doing it. Ended up carving LIAR and CHEAT all over the expensive desk that she loves.
Taped a photo of a big gash and bruise she gave me when she smashed my guitar over me one time. Then I smashed up what was left of the guitar on the desk & put the pieces in the drawers for her.
I wrote "you bashed my body I bashed your ****"
Then I wrapped the top and sides with protective cardboard so you cant see anything & like I packed it real carefully. So she gets a nice surprise when she opens it :rock:
It's kinda a big statement but I was pissed off like nothing on earth. Slept like a baby after that.
Does that count as breaking NC?
Swaggg!WeakNoMore said:So I decided she shouldnt come back for the last week at our place so I'm locking her out and leaving her stuff in the back yard. She can find out about that when she gets back from her honeymoon.
I'm packing up all her s**t last nite but had a couple of drinks while doing it. Ended up carving LIAR and CHEAT all over the expensive desk that she loves.
Taped a photo of a big gash and bruise she gave me when she smashed my guitar over me one time. Then I smashed up what was left of the guitar on the desk & put the pieces in the drawers for her.
I wrote "you bashed my body I bashed your ****"
Then I wrapped the top and sides with protective cardboard so you cant see anything & like I packed it real carefully. So she gets a nice surprise when she opens it :rock:
It's kinda a big statement but I was pissed off like nothing on earth. Slept like a baby after that.
Does that count as breaking NC?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
First your way or the highway. If she's doesn't do what you want hit her with the NC and move on. -LoFioretheking said:Hey guys, thanks for the replies - appreciate it. So have some news, just returned back from a hiking trip with my brother and his son and logged onto Fb and had a message from her saying 'hi' yday. Ignored that and went about my own business. Now i've received a msg on my cell from her blowing up and saying she is unhappy about me not responding blah blah.
For the record, when i said she told me its over i assumed it was with her coldness actions, ignoring me and rude texts - she thinks i've been seeing this other girl and that i took her on this trip (which i haven't) what the fuvk! She hasn't told me its over. So now i ask, shall i tell her its my way or the highway with her (as i want her back of course) or should i just continue NC and move on. Sorry to confuse!! Appreciate any response. Fio, Boston
Nice. I'm from Salt Lake City. SLC has more hot girls than anywhere (save maybe San Fran and LA... maybe), but also more crazy BPD chicks thanks to religious oppression and massive pharma influence.Hiker said:Day 62
Overcame the challenge, but the war is yet to be won.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m much happier now, but still hold some resentment. When I no longer care and can wish her well, then the war will be won.
That said, life has been good and is getting better.
As I’ve gotten more used to being single the desire to pursue women has gone down. It’s no longer a priority and an attempt to fill a gap. The desire is still there, but it’s taken a back seat to more important things, like working on becoming a better man, nurturing family and friend relationships, and advancing in my career.
Becoming single again after 7 years was a blessing in disguise.
I’ve recovered a lot of masculinity that was suppressed in the relationship.
I now have more energy, more drive. Lately there’s been a strong desire to improve and try new things. I just got hired to a new job out in Utah and decided to get a motorcycle. I’m going to ride it 1000 miles through the desert and stop in Vegas.
Life feels fresh again.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
That's kind of how I pictured it.... Lots of blonde-haired religious beauties battling their sexual urges. In that case, I'll just have to be their atheistic, motorcycle-riding bad boy. :rockon:SLC has more hot girls than anywhere (save maybe San Fran and LA... maybe), but also more crazy BPD chicks thanks to religious oppression and massive pharma influence
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Well in my defense, it just seemed so odd how quickly and drastically things changed. Literally less than two weeks before we broke up, she was telling my how attached she was to me and now she is completely over me? I think not. But then again, I'm the idiot asking for help haha.Swampcamel said:AH high school.
Dude, nobody is "too busy" in high school to have absolutely 0 social life. She wants you out, and tried do it in civilly. Now she's just not gonna talk. You caved over and over. Just don't talk to her, she's lost respect at this point.
Don't facebook, don't text. Don't ignore her in the hallway, that shows weakness. Just smile and wave and keep going.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.