She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
ljorozco said:Hi all.
I gotta say this is an awesome thread. It's been so helpful. I thank each of you for your wisdom.
Short version of the story: Almost 4 years invested in the relationship. She cheated on me several times (7 guys). I took her back each time. We got engaged in Nov last year. Engagement lasted 95 days. Day 96 she slept with some House music DJ. At day 55 she went out on a date with some dude she met in her hotel lobby bar. 2 days ago went to meet her to talk it out and finalize things, and walked in on her with the DJ (smooching/rubbing). Got the ring back.
Day 1. Here we go. I should be on day three but she baited me into an argument. It's hard. I know logically she's bad for me and not who I should be. She's so cold and bit&h to me. The ego is what's so bruised.
Be strong together gents.
Bling said:days since break up: 17
days since phone contact: 12
days since text contact: 10
been breaking the no facebook stalking rule. fuhhh. really want to contact her for my roissy three weeker (http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/04/10/how-to-win-back-an-ex-girlfriend/), but I keep remembering how she had all these beta exs that were still calling her while we were together. don't want to be another guy that pumps her up. it's impossible for us to be together again as we did long distance, but damn I want her back. still tough to get over her.
words of encouragement would be appreciated fellas.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Heal yourself first man, NC , go to the gym or do whatever make you mind busy, it's ok you mess up, don't hang up with her right now...durrr said:Day 2...
This hurts. And it is extremely hard. I'm almost caving in wanting to try and communicate. We talked on the phone Monday night and she told me she still wanted to go on dates but take things slow. And told me we should hang out Thursday. Then Thursday comes and she tells me she was sorry had 2 papers I just said okay and haven't contacted her since. She hadn't contacted me either. I've done a lot of great things for this girl and I know I made her happy. It's just a scary feeling she will forget me and all the good times we had. This will be the Third week I haven't seen her. I know I messed up 2 weeks ago. My trust issues got the best of me.
i think you should stick with nc, try as hard as possible to focus on urself, improving urself. dont think too much about her text.HW1984 said:Day 8...Since I broke NC.
Day 3...SInce she texted. (I have not responded)
Day 16... since break up
No different than yesterday. Can't get her out of my head no matter what I do. What seems to bother me the most and I know is doesn't matter either way but is she missing me too? I almost want to feel that if she doesn't I can move on easier. Since her text, I'm back at the is that her? everytime my phone goes off. I feel like I'm back to the first couple of days. That text set me backwards.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Thats exactly what it was meant to do, set you back!HW1984 said:Day 8...Since I broke NC.
Day 3...SInce she texted. (I have not responded)
Day 16... since break up
No different than yesterday. Can't get her out of my head no matter what I do. What seems to bother me the most and I know is doesn't matter either way but is she missing me too? I almost want to feel that if she doesn't I can move on easier. Since her text, I'm back at the is that her? everytime my phone goes off. I feel like I'm back to the first couple of days. That text set me backwards.
Cheers dude, i learnt the hard way, but now its paying offPairPlusRoyalFlush said:So much wisdom here![]()
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.