"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The Nature of Attractive Women

iqqi

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Last Man Standing said:
Interceptor, this is why I was against splitting up the forum and creating the mature man forum - the main discussion forum is filled with young guys that don't know the reality of today's women or a man's position relating to her!
And this is the forum they come to to seek counsel.
The MM forum is great to discuss matters without the deluge of immature misspelled trivial postings by our growing boys here at sosuave. The important thing to do as MM and MW is take what you can from the MM forums, and give what you can to the main discussion.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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iqqi said:
GREAT post, something that was on my very mind tonight. I even chose to spend Valentines Day by myself rather than with any of the men I know, because I am tired of being around weak, insecure, soulless men. I could not even stomach the idea of their displays of affection on this day, as they do not have the strenth or sincerity to reach me.

I just want to meet a man who is stronger than I am!!
LOL, you're a trip. So you're basically saying you want an "azzhole". I bet you hooked it up late night for V-day. :crackup:
 

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LOL, you're a trip. So you're basically saying you want an "azzhole". I bet you hooked it up late night for V-day. :crackup:
No fool, don't worry. Your dearest iqqi is safe and tucked in the bed, organizing her extensive music collection. She is listening to some Poe.

Depends on your definition of "azzhole". A man who isn't afraid to have his own convictions, yes, very attractive. A man who is a jerk because he is afraid to be himself, no, that is unattractive and weak.
 

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No fool, don't worry. Your dearest iqqi is safe and tucked in the bed, organizing her extensive music collection. She is listening to some Poe.

Depends on your definition of "azzhole". A man who isn't afraid to have his own convictions, yes, very attractive. A man who is a jerk because he is afraid to be himself, no, that is unattractive and weak.
They did that "johnny johnny this is your jezebel in hell" or something song. Those are probably the wrong lyrics. I liked that song. I'm old.

Actually, when I read the OP it appealed to me. I didn't see anything about being an a-hole in there. I'm tired at looking at chicks as my savior. But I also don't want to be separated from my emotions. I'm sure they can go together. I actually don't mind thinking of them mainly as sex objects, with the option of a deeper connection down the road. Sex object first. They react to guys who do that. I don't see why you can't be like the OP and be a warm, genuine person at the same time.

But, I'm morphing into something crazy weird right now. I have no clue what I'm saying these days. /end.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I guess the bottom line is that in order to get laid, you need to be sexually aggressive. If they want you back, and the signals and the energy is right, as long as you let them know, matter a factly that you have no interest in being anything less than F*** buddies, you will eventually land up naked together. What I am viciously against is the "Friendzone" I pick and choose my female friends very carefully. Right now, it's down to one, and she is cool, although she knows that I'd do her in a minute, I have known her for 3 years, and she is a fun, and good person. So I dont go there with her.

But the others, well, they get told right off the bat, not to be seeing me as "just a friend" or they will get sent on their merry way. I REFUSE to waste $$$, time, energy and effort on a woman who only wants me for an emotional tampon. If she wants to tell me all about what an ******* her ex is, as long as she does it, while I am having my post coital ciggy, after the second round of anal sex, she can talk all night long about what an a$$hole he is, and even cry in my arms about him.
 
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