"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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what is this thread about?

basically i will be reading the mystery book over this month. I will post on this thread every now and there to summarize, but more so related this to my past.

As i read this book, things keep popping back in my mind from my past and how right/wrong i was with mystery . Perhaps this will be discussion about mysterys teachings...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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kelly,..

this is a girl that i really wanted and at one point I had, but lost due to the very mistakes that mystery outlines.

* first off, how it all started out. I demostrated DHV , she works at a club, and it was mainly social proof, and i had a bragging about my work got her hooked. because I would goto the club to talk with other people. and I dressed very well. However, after 3 times i went to the club...realized she was into me, and I ****ed up because I SHOWED TOO MUCH INTEREST IN HER AT ONE POINT after that point.. TOO MUCH... I KEPT asking her out, and that showed DLV and desperation. At the same time, I told her I would pay her to go out with me...thats how i lost this one ..i was just overwhelmed and inexperienced ..

* Something I picked up that will be very helpful.. When I in the club. I dont have the laid posture of someone with high DHV. In the club, I make one of two mistakes. According to Mystery when you look around ( directly ) as if you are predator, it makes you lose your value in front of the girls as if you are desperate. Also, if your just standing around with a beer with a bunch of guys..makes you look like a one of the guys not talking to girls, that lowers your DHV..I remember this one time at the club, i tried to get this girl but she wouldn't be receptive to me, but once I opened up this chick across the bar and talked for few minutes, the target became more open, that was because I had preselection. This chick talked to me and gave me her number so I must be worth it, and now she was giving me real receptive signals.

* this is something I've come up with. When your conversations are a bore. If you ask the same shyt as everyone else, your just a everyday sam, so your DHV can go down.

* another way your DHV can go down is from the throw and go rule. This is if when you slip in you neg, you LOOK at her to SEE if your neg worked. Its as if saying "i Care about your reactions"..any type of reaction seeking behavior is also a DHV-lowering action. This is probably something that is hard to master unless you have alot of experience. but its one of things to refine in the future...



Now what mystery teaches Part 1:

i've always wondered why girls are so emotional. This is also why some guys who have good emotional intelligence are good with getting with girls. They are because emotions are the senses to who has status. its the way a guy walks, the way he talks, etc that demostrates confidence that they want to pick a guy who has high social status for her. today i read about female to male interest. basically as you demostrate more DHV and neg her more, SHE will show IOIs. This is how you know what you are doing is right. YOU HAVe to attuned very carefully to body language.
something as simple as these are examples of IOIs:
continuing the conversation, keep giving you eye contact, stands close to you ( THIS ONE IS a biggie) ..shes attentative to you , and the big one are she tries to build rapport and build comfort with you. there are also passive actions of her that show IOIs. You should be also careful of Fake IOIs. Indicators of Disinterest IODs are also : basically she won't contribute , she non responsive...shes looks away , leans away etc.

Previous chapters summarized as follows:
Cardinal rules are this. there are three steps to seduction. attraction, comfort and seduction. They Must occur in a specific order and you must build each stage before you can move to the next step. Failure to completely do each stage, will cause you to fail. ( he lists 9 ways to fail)

In the first stage, we are supposed to approach as if were supposed to be indirect and non-needy. in the second stage, we demostrate DHV and negging..

Thats as far as I got, but the next chapter is about conversation and topics... thats for the next post...
 

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second chapter recap

The other night i was at the club. i m standing real confident, then i approach this girl, but a guy comes up to me, and i immediatly begin talking to the guy and complete ignore the girl...I made friend with the guy but i realize later on that he might have been her sister or bf , the rest of the time i had IOIs from her, this was a direct result of this action I believe....


A2:

As you demonstrate Dhv, if your on track..you will get IOIs.
IOIs are usually ( subconscious) , she doesn’t have control over it
And IOIs show the internal state of a person , their internal state at that time…
Learning to spot and understand different IOIs .
The three important ones to look for are:
she reinitiates convo when you stop talking
she giggles
she touches you
she tries to get rapport and build comfort with you.

Neg Theory:
this is important when you sarge. How you come off to a girl is important. Looking around standing by yourself, or walking around predatorily as if you are deseparate means ot her other girls don't want you so why should I?
the whole theory of how this work is based how you appear to her. If you have an indifferent attitude..you aren't even trying to impress because you are a high status male and you already have girls...he throws out a neg and seems uninterested in her beauty becuase this man must be used to getting girls ( he is preselected ) by other girls...

if your convo is boring, its also a DLV
Types of NEgS:
A Neg is just like a IOD.
Shotgun Neg is to show nonneedines and show her your aren't trying to impress her
Tease Neg is playful fun attitude
sniper Neg immediateyy wipe her nose something she should just hear . make her feel like she performed a DLV

an important rule is to say this w/o looking at her reaction, it should be said kinda quick and abruptly and look away or move to the next conversation. You throw the neg and not look for a reaction. reaction seeking behavior is a DLV. just throw it out there and forget it.

DHV:

only lower-social value poeple try to impress by showing off their money. there are two items tha are mentione that increase your DHV.
the first social proof, ..if you are socially inept and unaware, then it is a dlv, it lowers her perception of our s & r value which makes her feel emotionally less attracted to you. it takes 7 hours of comfort building before she can be seduced. The second one is NEgging. doing them together builds attraction. preselection, appearing to be the leader of men, being nonneedy, social intelligence, negging her, having interesting knowledge, strong frame, emotional stimulation.

Group Theory: ( this part i didn't get very well ) well let see what i do know.

in mystery method, you approach the group itself not just wait for the girl to be single. WHY? because otherwise you are limiting yourself to alot less options . and the higher quality girls tend to be with groups.

one way to win is : once the set is open, disarm her friends with stories , humor, and othe DHV. YOU won over her group. you are the leader of men. This is a DHV.

there are other additions to this which I will discuss further later after a few other topics are covered.

Multiple conversational Threads:
basically new acquiantences speak in a single thread of topic. But those who know each other well speak in multiple thread topics. You can mimic the feelings as if you guys know each other well by talking in multiple conversational threads.

Conversation:
During the beginning of hte conversation. You haven't demostrated enough DHV for her to build attraction to her. You will have to do 90% of the talking intially and as time goes on you will have the opportunity to demostrated DHV / NEGs . your just bidding time for that to happen.Even if shes interested, you must still be leading the interaction and keep her stimulated. Its very important to keep talk, talk, talk.

Having a strong frame:
this means you need to cut thread topics that are perhaps not worth talking about ..e.g. her boyfriend for example or its not usefulll.you need to have a frame to be able to cut topics ..and when someone interrupts you be able to cut that topic to another one and move back and forth.

The Waypoint:
eventually you need to ask how do you know each other.. it must be asked in every set. its harmless but generates more conversation and gets useful information about the status of her relationships.

WINGING RULES ( SKIPPED )
Accomplishment Introduction -- basically have someone brag about you. I dont know if this works so well but listing it for the record.

StoryTelling -- basically put the listener through a little emotional journey. for some reason, this is also a DHV, even it doesn't reveal some value raising factiod about yourself your life.

Lock in props -- while your negging and acting uninterested the target may get up and leave to avoid this. put something on her so you can have some reason to gou back and open the conversation back up in the future.

The spin maneuver -- basically if girls are facing the baar you spin them around so that they are now exactly facing you and your facing the bar.. it looks like you lead them, its physology at work because soon your leaning back against the bar comfortably and your target is standing between your legs while you run a kino test. It seems the girls are up on you.
Role-Playing --
False-Diqualifiers-- a IOD
The PhotoGraphic Memory DHV -- basically play a game of memory with her

GROUP DYNamics;

dont limit yourself to target that are single. if shes single , dont wait for Eye contact , just approach..


NOW this part is important. If your establish EC, and then fail to approach this is a DLV. because you risk her thinking that you chickened out and ..your then coming from a position of lower value having to fix damage in her views that you were sitting there tyring to gain the confidence to approach her. Minimize the time you spend between when the girl notices and when you approach her.

Always smile as its non-threatening.When you open her, you open from a frame ofthat you are screening her. Not a begging one. You are curious about her and intersted in finding more about her...

with TWO SETS:


DO NOT GO DIRECTLY FOR THE TARGET. YOU NEED To disarm the other target first. WYou wmust win over the other perosn first. if she doesn't feel ignored, she wont't find interest in you.You cannot isolate the target if she is in a two set because she woun't want to leave her friend alone. usually if its a guy and you befriend him an d he's not her bf, then usually he'll leave..once you see the friend likes you turn the atteniont to the target by saying "target and I like each other, are you okay with that ?" do a couple of negs and finally start paying some attention to her.

with THREE SETS;
it isn't so bad to extract her because the other two are not alone. but if they are boys , make sure they aren't they bf before proceeding..just be direct and say something like "I like your friend, we're going to chat for a bit, and ...'

Pawns and pivots:
this is the process of finding someone at the club and walking around with them for the purpose of social proof. A pivot is someone you bring from your home...

Forward and backward merging..basically to open a new set and move your current set into it. backwards merging is to reopen a previous set and move back into it.
 

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chapter 3: NOW SHES ATTRacTED BAIT HER to invest into you

this is probably most complicated chapter of mysterys book.
to really understand this chapter each of the other chapters build upon each other to this.
now, lets start with what the goal and where we came from so far.



basically we've gotten some female interest because stuff we did in A1, and A2.
now we need to get her to get her to invest in us ....attraction is useful for baiting her interest
but what happens after okay you've got the interest okay well
basically we get her to 'buy into us' make her feel that shes doing the work in winning us over
and thus because she won us over, she should think of herself as winning something important.
this is a delicate game of rewarding with IOIs and givings IODs when she doesn't perform, you are kinda
training her into submission ....you have to bait her her for your affections..
how is this done?

Frame...this is the context in which words are said taht give it meaning. For example. A teacher talking to the student. The teacher has a authority figure frame.

a demostration of DLV, is if she can impose her frame over you. IF YOU HAVE A strong frame , and she can't do that then this is a DHV.

Why does this matter in the first place ?

the most important frame us djs have in the one when we have more social status than our target. we must hold that frame strongly. If we fall under her frame that she is the prize, then WE have just shown a DLV.

there is a frame game, that people play. such as hold my cup for me, she asks for something.. through this way, a person will express or demostrate the frame which they believe in...

you have to be careful, you don t want to be so compliment because that would mean shes imposing her frame on you, but on the other hand, you dont want be a social robot being so unbending and unflexible your poorly mixing with other people. The object would be have her jump through a figurative loop aka "frame game" before you do.

the bottom line is there are tons of sayings in the book that you can use, however the most effective way is to have inner game . if you have inner game, all this will come out naturally.

other ways to demostrate that you are a high status person is to have standards, takeways ( basically withdraw attention when shes wanting it)

basically, this next part is my interpretation.

Mystery talks about compliance and so called as we are working on testing her compliance , breaking one barrier, and get her to start comply more and more with you through a series of demostrating your own value and bringing hers down a little so that over the time of interaction, her level at which she trusts you has raised from nothing to about 65 %.

Examples of compliance tests are as follows:
you put her hand on your knee and she leaves it there
you touch her and she touches you back
you sqeeze her hand and she squeezes back


at the same time which you are trying to break her compliance, you are also escalating kino. basically if she defies your compliance test , give her an IOD, and raise you DHV, and give her another compliance test. there is a regular flow:

you IOD and DHV look for a female IOIs, if she responds with IOIS give her a compliance test. IF she complies with your test, rewards her with an IOIs and then give her another compliance test, as this cycle repeats , compliance momentum is built.

this cycle repeats until you have sex. compliance builds upon each other, from hand holding to hugging to kissing, there is an escalation in your compliance momemtum..gaining her compliance is when getting her to invest ( get a drink, spends some money on you) social pressure, locking her in, getting her to bounce

Important, if you give her a compliance test and she senses you cant back it up she will deny you. Do not look for her approval or even her being "Ok with it"..just Lead.

Don't ever compliment her on looks. Compliment on her things such as personality.

The cycle that i mentioned above there is a good structure to which it works it works like this:

Bait, hook, reel, and release

this is how is works..
you ask her a question,( bait)
she responds by telling her interesting stuff about herself ( she has just DHV for you)\
You give her an IOI ( reeling her into the convo so shes invested in the interaction)
now push her off to take away the discomfort of being picked up ( release her)

you see there is a delicate game being played here you bait her to give you an DHV, she does, and reward ( phsyology priinciple of reward/punishment) but then you complete distance yourself as if to say " i m not picking you up, because i m a high status male and i dont give out IOIs so easily )

so that once you release ( neutralize the last comment) you go on the next round, and in the cycle fashion like one of those spiral parking lot ramps, you are spiralling upwards building more compliance, kino, and comfort... at the level that you are breaking down her social status and raising yourself..so you are setting yourself up for the next part which is comfort.



I have covered most what i can pick up from this obviously important chapter, however, in reality i see several obstacles...i dont know if your target is going to have patience for you to give you the time of day to sit there while you try all your games. if you had her complete attention for this amount of time, then i coudl this working. but if shes giving you the time, anyway, shes interested to begin with?

I thought the attraction ended with the last chapter with you showing some DHV and game over, no way. you have bait her to invest in you while at the same time not appearing to DLV yourself.

One thing I really learned from mstery, i used to be so cut and dry and throwing out what I thought were DHV , when in fact it came out at blantant bragging about myself which is a DLV. What i learned was that, women are very finely tuned to sensing social status..that you have to show this very subtle and be able to do by playing games without her realizing that your are actually playing games. YOu have to really confident and show you are, but you can't explicit say it or brag, but you have to show social status. Sometimes I think that the best way to achieve is to perhaps forget all the games in stead be the real thing, have real social status have real social friends and at the same time, have real innner game , hvae the real social status the real nice car and nice apartment so your inner game is there for all to see.
 

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all this f'kn research and this morning , had an opportunty target conversing with a guy outside work building. and i didn't do anythign. i attribute to my jacking off last night, but damn I can't believe this shyt I have to practice this ,its not just about getting knowledge but you need field practice I SHOULD HAVE gotten it this morning so pizzed
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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