"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The most pathetic question from miserable men

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”But was she hot?”
Or any variation of this same statement only comes from the mouth of sad men.

Someone who is happy with themselves and secure does not occupy his mind or thoughts on what someone else finds hot or not. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There’s beauty in diversity. Who am I, who are YOU. To tell anyone what they should like or be happy with

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Soooo....What's the question? ??
 

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Whatever. In the fight against human instincts, you can run, but you can't hide.

"She was hot" as an excuse is just as defensible as "but I like to eat" for fat people.

Mots people are fat, few people can consciously manage their instincts.

Also, if you try and get a hot chick and fail, it's easy to use the sour grapes reframe (e.g. people who bang hot chicks just because they are hot are fools).

No one is innocent.
 

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Well I mean, some things are universally ugly and attractive. Clearly a fat chick isn’t wanted more than your typical Instagram fit chick. Plus, anyone can go out and have sex with an ugly girl really, it’s not that hard. The hotter you go though, the harder it gets.
 

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Some men want the woman to be mainly hot. That is OK by me, to each his own.

However, a lot of these men start spilling sh1t like "If your woman is not an 8, you're not good at it, you bangin average chicks". Human beings evolved to this point where we don't look at the hotness only. I would much rather have what the critics would call a 7 and have her be a well brought up girl, feminine, fits me sexually (the way she moans, thinks, has sex, the way she feels me) and is a good cook and a fun girl to hang out with THAN what the critics call a 9 or a 10 and is only good to be banged. No matter how we treat them, women are not just sex objects.

Once again, I am fine with a guy wanting a 9 and sex only. When this guy goes around telling me that my girl is a 7 and I am not as good as him at "game"...that is where it becomes cringy. That is practically where this guy's ego is so fragile it hangs onto the fact he got a hotter looking woman than me and wants it to be known.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Some men want the woman to be mainly hot. That is OK by me, to each his own.

However, a lot of these men start spilling sh1t like "If your woman is not an 8, you're not good at it, you bangin average chicks". Human beings evolved to this point where we don't look at the hotness only. I would much rather have what the critics would call a 7 and have her be a well brought up girl, feminine, fits me sexually (the way she moans, thinks, has sex, the way she feels me) and is a good cook and a fun girl to hang out with THAN what the critics call a 9 or a 10 and is only good to be banged. No matter how we treat them, women are not just sex objects.

Once again, I am fine with a guy wanting a 9 and sex only. When this guy goes around telling me that my girl is a 7 and I am not as good as him at "game"...that is where it becomes cringy. That is practically where this guy's ego is so fragile it hangs onto the fact he got a hotter looking woman than me and wants it to be known.
I know a woman who is like this. It's all about the looks. The guy has to be built and have good hair and be noticably hot. How good they look on her arm is what's important to her, more than personality. She wants to be seen with him. And of course it's validation. She landed a hot guy that other woman want to f**k. She is bright and fun to be around but shallow. Actually a couple of guys here kind of remind me of her, regarding what they look for in a woman. She's like the female equilvant of those guys.

We did a couples weekend with her and one of her ken dolls at a cottage. Talking to him was painful. It was like the wheel was spinning but the hamster was dead.

I don't know how guys can stand it if she's hot but there's nothing upstairs, I meant after the sex anyway. How long does it last before it gets boring.
 

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Some men want the woman to be mainly hot. That is OK by me, to each his own.

However, a lot of these men start spilling sh1t like "If your woman is not an 8, you're not good at it, you bangin average chicks". Human beings evolved to this point where we don't look at the hotness only. I would much rather have what the critics would call a 7 and have her be a well brought up girl, feminine, fits me sexually (the way she moans, thinks, has sex, the way she feels me) and is a good cook and a fun girl to hang out with THAN what the critics call a 9 or a 10 and is only good to be banged. No matter how we treat them, women are not just sex objects.

Once again, I am fine with a guy wanting a 9 and sex only. When this guy goes around telling me that my girl is a 7 and I am not as good as him at "game"...that is where it becomes cringy. That is practically where this guy's ego is so fragile it hangs onto the fact he got a hotter looking woman than me and wants it to be known.
Well, I fell for this trap. My ego was in my way to see that she's not 8 but jut 7 at max. I wanted status that comes with dating more than 7. Lesson learnt. Spin more plates and find that solid 7 at looks and personality.
 
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except for guys, its because usually, sex with a hotter woman is more pleasurable. not saying the same isnt true for your friend, but for women its more about social status. good looks are an automatic type of status. its also that much better if the guy has game

and yea, most hot women arent good beyond sex and can get old real quick. and while i dont disagree that a good balance makes for a better girlfriend, i find that women, despite what they vehemently claim, WANT to be objectified.

We like to call it being sexually desired hahahaha.

Being sexually objectified by a someone she finds attractive is a very powerful turn on for women. And I'm going to go ahead and speak for all women when I say that. We all like that even the prudes.

But there's a difference between being sexually objectified by her man and being seen as only being good for a roll in the hay. Being able to sexually objectify her while seeing other value in her is the ideal, for her, and for guys who may be looking for a bit more than just sex.
 
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I know a woman who is like this. It's all about the looks. The guy has to be built and have good hair and be noticably hot. How good they look on her arm is what's important to her, more than personality. She wants to be seen with him. And of course it's validation. She landed a hot guy that other woman want to f**k. She is bright and fun to be around but shallow. Actually a couple of guys here kind of remind me of her, regarding what they look for in a woman. She's like the female equilvant of those guys.

We did a couples weekend with her and one of her ken dolls at a cottage. Talking to him was painful. It was like the wheel was spinning but the hamster was dead.

I don't know how guys can stand it if she's hot but there's nothing upstairs, I meant after the sex anyway. How long does it last before it gets boring.
There's nothing upstairs with ANY girl. Her having looks is the only way she's even tolerable to be around.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This is absolutelly not true, there are tons of smart and interesting girls out there. You're speaking out of anger and frustration.
I think at the core of their DNA lies nonsense. Even if they have slight bits of sense from time to time, I don't need any of that from them. I know female doctors, dentists, lawyers that I consider to have the same nonsense brain just with a cloak around it that they show to society. I don't respect a girl just because she went to school and got a degree. Females must manipulate in order to survive. I wouldn't find a girl attractive because she knew about Einstein or could program a computer.
 

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I think at the core of their DNA lies nonsense. Even if they have slight bits of sense from time to time, I don't need any of that from them. I know female doctors, dentists, lawyers that I consider to have the same nonsense brain just with a cloak around it that they show to society. I don't respect a girl just because she went to school and got a degree. Females must manipulate in order to survive. I wouldn't find a girl attractive because she knew about Einstein or could program a computer.
If they didn't have their "nonsense" they'd be pretty boring i imagine, the best part about women is that they're completelly different than men. If we wanted someone rational, calculating and very responsible, we'd be hooking up with our buddies haha.
 
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If they didn't have their "nonsense" they'd be pretty boring i imagine, the best part about women is that they're completelly different than men. If we wanted someone rational, calculating and very responsible, we'd be hooking up with our buddies haha.
I find their nonsense to be awful to be around. Especially if they're milking my bank account.

Your friends don't have vaginas. Ideally, a girl could have sex and not give nonsense.
 

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I find their nonsense to be awful to be around. Especially if they're milking my bank account.

Your friends don't have vaginas. Ideally, a girl could have sex and not give nonsense.
Saying all women give nonsense is like saying all men care about is sex.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Saying all women give nonsense is like saying all men care about is sex.
Maybe. Plus, not all guys are rational and responsible.

All I care about is sex when it comes to girls. I don't know what else there could be. I don't really believe in all the deep connection and soul mate stuff.
 

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Maybe. Plus, not all guys are rational and responsible.

All I care about is sex when it comes to girls. I don't know what else there could be. I don't really believe in all the deep connection and soul mate stuff.
That's where we differ, i sincerelly enjoy talking to women, nothing like hearing a gracious woman talking, they're all silly and cute. It even feels kinda gay.
 
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Quit talking to me. You think I forget you trying to talk sh1t to me a few months ago? Why the fvck would a girl hang out on a pickup website unless she's a loser?
Richard, anything anyone responds to regarding your posts you interpret as an attack. I've seen you insult guys who were genuinely trying to give you advice.
The question you should ask yourself is why YOU are on this site, if you don't like women, and only see them useful for paid sex.
It is pick up site, like you said. As you can see, most of the threads here are not about hookers and SA, aside from the ones that you start. I think it's safe to conclude that most guys here don't consider paying a hooker for sex as pick up.
There are better sites for you to contribute your knowledge with like minded people. I'm not sure why you continously post the same themes over and over and insult half the people on the site, but it is what it is.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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