"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The most attractive male traits rankings (input wanted)

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Right now with the college football playoffs/rankings going on ... i got to wondering how 'attractive male traits' would rank...here's my ranking/list:

1. Social Status: leader/power/authority figure/winner, quantity & quality of relationships (large number of family and friends who also have high social status) etc.

2. Wealth: net worth/income/equity, job title, education, network quality, etc.

3. Sexual Attractiveness: face, body, height, hair, ethnicity (e.g. white male in US), teeth, d!ck size, etc.

4. Personality: confident, cultured, funny, generous, wild, high octane interests/activities, spontaneous, daring

5. Style: clothes, car, jewelry, clean cut-sharp, hair style, fashion sense, etc.

6. Intelligence: critical thinking, handiness, world knowledge, technical savvy, articulate, well read & spoken, witty, etc.

What would your rankings look like? What am I missing?
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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1. Facial attractiveness
2. Height/body attractiveness
3. Youth/health
4. Wealth
5. Personality

This presumes importance of the 5 factors being average. Ie, a highly attractive face can trump everything else, assuming the other factors are near average .
 

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This presumes importance of the 5 factors being average. Ie, a highly attractive face can trump everything else, assuming the other factors are near average .
I disagree with this.

For example: model men get good looking chicks ... but wealthy/powerful/high status men attract the hottest girls in the world despite their looks--or at least it seems that way anecdotally
 

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I disagree with this.

For example: model men get good looking chicks ... but wealthy/powerful/high status men attract the hottest girls in the world. At least it seems that way anecdotally
Ever seen Bill Clinton's wife or the rather ugly women he hooked up with? He was very wealthy, powerful also tall and has some personality etc. But his face is mostly near average.

No sure what you're disagreeing with. I said assuming the other factors are around average. If one's wealth/power/status is exceptional high and rare it can change its ranking/importance.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I think it depends on the type of women we are talking about. I remember when I was in college, a lot of the guys doing the doctorate there were your typical intellectual, smoking, with long coats, a book in the hand, you get the picture. So the first year girls would leave their old bfs to fuk with these guys, because they wanted to be considered intellectual girls. So, I guess this is inside the power category, but in the form of intelegence.
 

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Isn't this what most women should do?
if you asked a girl it would look something like this:

1. nice
2. polite
3. friendly
4. handsome

girls are very politically correct about their shrewd-shallow-golddiggingness
 

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if you asked a girl it would look something like this:

1. nice
2. polite
3. friendly
4. handsome

girls are very politically correct about their shrewd-shallow-golddiggingness
I mean , this is a site for PU women. I would find it more normal if there was a thread for the ideal woman.

This thread is what an afc would do in my eyes. Setting some standards and then comparing yourself with them . It's not like that.
Every male out there is special. Do you think an alpha male would care if he's tall or has some sense of style? No.

Observe yourself, accept who you are, know your qualities, improve the whole package to the best. Become a dj.
 

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I mean , this is a site for PU women. I would find it more normal if there was a thread for the ideal woman.

This thread is what an afc would do in my eyes. Setting some standards and then comparing yourself with them . It's not like that.
Every male out there is special. Do you think an alpha male would care if he's tall or has some sense of style? No.

Observe yourself, accept who you are, know your qualities, improve the whole package to the best. Become a dj.
I think being aware of what are the most desirable qualities gives you some kind of tangible target to obtain though ..

e.g. improving your fashion, physique, sense of style, wealth, etc.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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(1) Looks
(2) Status
(3) Means or demonstrated ability to attain means (sociability and leadership traits)
(4) Fearlessness and willingness to take risk.
(5) Self Control and discipline
(6) Have your own interesting life
(7) Happy with yourself and not concerned with what she does.
 

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The stuff in quotes below is from Chateau Heartiste, he has posted about about a similar topic. In my experience...his findings seem to be pretty true. I don't believe for a second that looks are at the top of the pyramid for women. If this were the case, there would never be a good-looking guy who can't get laid. However, as we know, this scenario can certainly happen. I do think that some of these attractiveness traits need to be non-zero (e.g., if your appearance is REALLY bad it won't matter how high your status is, it'll be difficult to get a date); but as others have noted, deficiencies in one area can typically be made up in another, especially those higher up in CH's 'ranking'. Anyway, here's what he has to say:

"""
As I’ve written before, what men like in women is simple. In descending order of importance, here are the female attractiveness traits that men desire in women:

Beauty.
Femininity.
Sexual eagerness.

In descending order of importance, here are the male attractiveness traits that women desire in men:

Psychosocial dominance (game).
High status/fame.
Personality (passion/charisma/humor).
Wealth.
Good looks/height/muscularity.
Cleverness/smarts.
Dependability/reliability.
Sexual prowess.
"""
 
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