"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The most attractive male traits rankings (input wanted)

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Right now with the college football playoffs/rankings going on ... i got to wondering how 'attractive male traits' would rank...here's my ranking/list:

1. Social Status: leader/power/authority figure/winner, quantity & quality of relationships (large number of family and friends who also have high social status) etc.

2. Wealth: net worth/income/equity, job title, education, network quality, etc.

3. Sexual Attractiveness: face, body, height, hair, ethnicity (e.g. white male in US), teeth, d!ck size, etc.

4. Personality: confident, cultured, funny, generous, wild, high octane interests/activities, spontaneous, daring

5. Style: clothes, car, jewelry, clean cut-sharp, hair style, fashion sense, etc.

6. Intelligence: critical thinking, handiness, world knowledge, technical savvy, articulate, well read & spoken, witty, etc.

What would your rankings look like? What am I missing?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Stagger Lee

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1. Facial attractiveness
2. Height/body attractiveness
3. Youth/health
4. Wealth
5. Personality

This presumes importance of the 5 factors being average. Ie, a highly attractive face can trump everything else, assuming the other factors are near average .
 

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This presumes importance of the 5 factors being average. Ie, a highly attractive face can trump everything else, assuming the other factors are near average .
I disagree with this.

For example: model men get good looking chicks ... but wealthy/powerful/high status men attract the hottest girls in the world despite their looks--or at least it seems that way anecdotally
 

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I disagree with this.

For example: model men get good looking chicks ... but wealthy/powerful/high status men attract the hottest girls in the world. At least it seems that way anecdotally
Ever seen Bill Clinton's wife or the rather ugly women he hooked up with? He was very wealthy, powerful also tall and has some personality etc. But his face is mostly near average.

No sure what you're disagreeing with. I said assuming the other factors are around average. If one's wealth/power/status is exceptional high and rare it can change its ranking/importance.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I think it depends on the type of women we are talking about. I remember when I was in college, a lot of the guys doing the doctorate there were your typical intellectual, smoking, with long coats, a book in the hand, you get the picture. So the first year girls would leave their old bfs to fuk with these guys, because they wanted to be considered intellectual girls. So, I guess this is inside the power category, but in the form of intelegence.
 

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Isn't this what most women should do?
if you asked a girl it would look something like this:

1. nice
2. polite
3. friendly
4. handsome

girls are very politically correct about their shrewd-shallow-golddiggingness
 

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if you asked a girl it would look something like this:

1. nice
2. polite
3. friendly
4. handsome

girls are very politically correct about their shrewd-shallow-golddiggingness
I mean , this is a site for PU women. I would find it more normal if there was a thread for the ideal woman.

This thread is what an afc would do in my eyes. Setting some standards and then comparing yourself with them . It's not like that.
Every male out there is special. Do you think an alpha male would care if he's tall or has some sense of style? No.

Observe yourself, accept who you are, know your qualities, improve the whole package to the best. Become a dj.
 

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I mean , this is a site for PU women. I would find it more normal if there was a thread for the ideal woman.

This thread is what an afc would do in my eyes. Setting some standards and then comparing yourself with them . It's not like that.
Every male out there is special. Do you think an alpha male would care if he's tall or has some sense of style? No.

Observe yourself, accept who you are, know your qualities, improve the whole package to the best. Become a dj.
I think being aware of what are the most desirable qualities gives you some kind of tangible target to obtain though ..

e.g. improving your fashion, physique, sense of style, wealth, etc.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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(1) Looks
(2) Status
(3) Means or demonstrated ability to attain means (sociability and leadership traits)
(4) Fearlessness and willingness to take risk.
(5) Self Control and discipline
(6) Have your own interesting life
(7) Happy with yourself and not concerned with what she does.
 

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The stuff in quotes below is from Chateau Heartiste, he has posted about about a similar topic. In my experience...his findings seem to be pretty true. I don't believe for a second that looks are at the top of the pyramid for women. If this were the case, there would never be a good-looking guy who can't get laid. However, as we know, this scenario can certainly happen. I do think that some of these attractiveness traits need to be non-zero (e.g., if your appearance is REALLY bad it won't matter how high your status is, it'll be difficult to get a date); but as others have noted, deficiencies in one area can typically be made up in another, especially those higher up in CH's 'ranking'. Anyway, here's what he has to say:

"""
As I’ve written before, what men like in women is simple. In descending order of importance, here are the female attractiveness traits that men desire in women:

Beauty.
Femininity.
Sexual eagerness.

In descending order of importance, here are the male attractiveness traits that women desire in men:

Psychosocial dominance (game).
High status/fame.
Personality (passion/charisma/humor).
Wealth.
Good looks/height/muscularity.
Cleverness/smarts.
Dependability/reliability.
Sexual prowess.
"""
 
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