"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The mission after the first kiss

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After a long time here reading a lot of posts (especially the ones from Mr.Fingers) and the Bible, and of course after a lot of crash and burning, I have realized something: keeping a girl is ten times harder than kissing her. You can be The Master of C&F and The King of the Kino, but if you don't know how to handle a girl after the mission has been accomplished, you'll probably have the same feeling, or maybe worse, than if you were dumpped.

I live in Latin America and the things work a little bit different in my country. Most of the time, you meet a girl for the first time in a club or a bar and, without a lot of effort, end the night kissing and making out with her there. I have already done that with many girls in the same night. It is part of our culture!

But the real problem lives in keeping all these girls later. Of course, 80% of them are just Party Girls and just want a One Night Stand, but some of them are "Nice" Girls and dying for meeting a guy for a LTR. The problem I am facing lately is to keep a girl like that and to have a good time with her again.

We are all tired from reading everyday the same posts asking how many days you should or should not wait to call a girl after getting her number. My doubt isn't here. It is to know what shoud be the right attitudes to have when dealing with a girl like that. My final objective is to have a LTR with her, so what would be the right process?
In my opinion (and from personal experience) just a little phone call can ruin everything. My purpose in a phone call is always to meet her in person and if she gives me an excuse (even if it is a real one), I get shot down and end up giving up on her....and sometimes she is just playing a little phone game that I'm not used to the rules!

The material in the site is real good, but almost all of them are just tips to get girls you want. What I'm searching here is the continuation of the story. So I would really apreciate any kind of replys, tips and material about this subject.
It is like in the sales world. A good saler is not the one who sells his product to the customers, but the one who sells and make them come to buy his product again and again!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Engetsu

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Well, my friend, I'm reading this at just the right time, since I'm in a similar situation as yours. Getting the girl had always been easy, but keeping her was a different story.

To get the girl, you use C&F, neg-hits, whatever it is that works for you, as long as she's attracted to you physically and is thinking about you, if you're mysterious enough.

However, when you've number-closed the deal, and after having a first casual date, you need to open-up more, since the "nice" girls, as you say, really want to get to KNOW you, so you need to prove to her that you're LTR material. After the mysterious facade that keeps her wondering, you need to feed her some of the candy!

Basically, treat her as you would treat a guy friend of yours. Don't act like a pvssy-ass AFC, be a man, but be a talkative man, have opinions, show your intelligence, and try to get to know her. This stuff is supposed to be natural, so the less you think about it, the better it'll flow.

Don't forget to talk, and don't forget that you are the MAN.
 
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I think the key to maintaining a ltr is to have the same interests and values and goals in life - it is called compatibility. I personally don't look for hors in a club to form a personal relationship...go to places where you will find better candidates that have some of the same values and interests as you! Church, school, volunteer work, etc.

Cual pais en sur america vives?
 

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The challenge does not "end" when you kiss her. It doesn't end when you get her clothes off. It's just beginning, in fact.

I am slowly realizing this...dealing with women isn't something you can just "muddle through" until you get to where you want to be and then relax back into your AFC state. You have to "own" these attitudes and techniques.

THIS is why playing the part isn't enough...you have to BE the part.

It's not a weekend retreat. It's not a goddam seminar.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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