"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Karma.................... You TRAITOR!!



You'll DIE for this!!










:p Just kidding. I hope you and her will be happy for a long time, congrats!
 

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KarmaSutra said:
I'm the same bastard today I was 2 days ago.

Putting a ring on her finger hasn't changed who either of us are. It's merely served to announce our mutual exclusivity to each other. I made it a point to try and find something which would assure me that she's lumped in with the rest.

That day hasn't come. Nothing but complete respect for me as a positive masculine figure, as her lover, as her confidante, and as her long-term mate has manifest.

It dawned on me that if anything was going to fvck this up it would be my childish critique of her machinations; my pin-pricking her every action is what screws up relationships. She knows what my goals and aspirations are, I know, and absolutely appreciate, her own. We respect each others' space and boundaries.

Without words.

The best thing I can hope is that every one of you fella's find your own El Dorado, as we've been able to.

Is she foreign?

I got mine a ring too.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
The best thing I can hope is that every one of you fella's find your own El Dorado, as we've been able to.
I've found mine, and we're getting divorced. The worst part about the whole thing is I found mine AFTER I joined this forum and had been posting regularly.

Being with the wrong woman TWICE is enough for me.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Im confused about a few things karma.what cant you do with her single that you can do with her married?
 

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Dear Karma,
Yes Blind Freddy might have seen of late,the profound changes that have occurred in you....To me you were always a rough Diamond,but you have been polished a treat,to reveal a multi faceted stone,of rare brilliance....I thought it was the civilising influence of the Site,but no,Cherchez La Femme!,I am happy for you,but urge extreme caution don't commit to any dates,be careful what you say in front of her friends,give it four years at least,then you will know....Whatever you do until then don't move in with her....There is No need to bring the State into any personal relationship,unless you seriously contemplate raising Children.
 

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Another one bites the dust...

This is some truly depressing news. Out of all the people in this forum I just never expected Karma to be one of the guys to fall..

Brother I wish you luck and nothing but good things that's the type of man I am, but I just can't help but feel sad about this. Anytime I read/hear of someone I know get married it's like getting punched in the stomach. It's the same way I would feel if I heard someone I know got into an accident or something horrible happened to them.

I can only hope that you give yourself time to think this over. Give yourself a long time and give her a long time to prove herself to you, or at least I hope you did make her prove herself to you for a long enough amount of time.
 

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Çock-Star said:
Third...this is for everyone. Never speak in absolutes because 9 times out of 10 you end up being wrong. :kick:
And this is exactly why people shouldn't get married.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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no not at all.

If you knew for a fact that a certain decision will fail you 9 times out of 10, practically you should never take that decision. The problem is people cannot rationally judge the outcomes of their decisions ..
 

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Congrats Karma. I toast thee--

To a long life, and a merry one,
A quick death, and an easy one,
A pretty girl, and a true one,
A cold beer and another one!

And as an aside, why do you guys feel the need to rain your gloom-as$ opinions on someone you don't even know?? Save them for another thread.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Noted without comment.

Shots fired!!!

On topic though

Congrats though, Karma was the first one to call out these fugazi GURUS/rep hungry posters (you know whom am talking about) and not back down while most tenured members didn't say or do shyt. Good to see him find his QUEEN
 

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Çock-Star said:
Wouldn't you agree that what you posted itself is speaking in absolutes?. A little contradictory wouldn't you agree?
Yeah, no sh!t.
 

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Solomon said:
Shots fired!!!

On topic though

Congrats though, Karma was the first one to call out these fugazi GURUS/rep hungry posters (you know whom am talking about) and not back down while most tenured members didn't say or do shyt. Good to see him find his QUEEN
with all due respect to K-man,

he spends a lifetime bashing posters who have lots of "green dots" (although it's not the posters, but the readers who are giving them those green dots)

and then every once in a while he comes back and feels the need to remind us that he was the most rep'ped poster in sosuave before he disabled reputation.

I want to see them green dots. That's an easy indicator of who I should ignore and who I should take seriously. And there's nothing immoral or unethical about showing people that you are admired and respected.

I mean seriously, why are we even coming back here and sharing our opinions? Don't give me that cheesy "helping my fellow brothers
prosper in their journeys" argument.

We feel good about ourselves, we feel good about being appreciated and respected. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But it makes me sick to see how some of us are so viciously attacking this basic idea, while needing the attention more than anyone else.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Goddamn, Boiler. You have my reps :)

Edit: Damn.. I have to wait to give you more XD
 

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Boilermaker said:
with all due respect to K-man,

he spends a lifetime bashing posters who have lots of "green dots" (although it's not the posters, but the readers who are giving them those green dots)

and then every once in a while he comes back and feels the need to remind us that he was the most rep'ped poster in sosuave before he disabled reputation.

I want to see them green dots. That's an easy indicator of who I should ignore and who I should take seriously. And there's nothing immoral or unethical about showing people that you are admired and respected.

I mean seriously, why are we even coming back here and sharing our opinions? Don't give me that cheesy "helping my fellow brothers
prosper in their journeys" argument.

We feel good about ourselves, we feel good about being appreciated and respected. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But it makes me sick to see how some of us are so viciously attacking this basic idea, while needing the attention more than anyone else.
WOW

Dude lol relaaaaaaaaaax

Just kidding

But now you make a good point, however there some guys who got green dots who don't deserve them at all I.e. RescueMission and SanJuancalifornia(kid is a virgin giving advice on how to fucc)

Good post though

+1 repped
 

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Solomon said:
WOW

Dude lol relaaaaaaaaaax

Just kidding

But now you make a good point, however there some guys who got green dots who don't deserve them at all I.e. RescueMission and SanJuancalifornia(kid is a virgin giving advice on how to fucc)

Good post though

+1 repped

Rescue Mission? Rescue mission is SKIP. that's why he was banned. Skip deserves some green dots.
 

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Solomon said:
WOW

Dude lol relaaaaaaaaaax

Just kidding

But now you make a good point, however there some guys who got green dots who don't deserve them at all I.e. RescueMission and SanJuancalifornia(kid is a virgin giving advice on how to fucc)

Good post though

+1 repped
Hey! You turned your green dots back on! :D :D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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