The Jedi Bootcamp Journal.

[Luke Skywalker]

Hey, I know what I'll do. I'm a Real-Estate agent. Why not add value - approach, fluff, and introduce myself as an agent, and ask her if she currently owns a home or rent -- and then casually if she lives with family, or on her own or something.

I remember doing this before to a HB(Black) person and I got a contact close with just a couple of minutes of fluff talk.

I'm going to try this out a few times and post FR's on it for this bootcamp, as well as the other stuff. It's all about finding a cool nitch.

Should be in the habit of giving out business cards and talking to people anyway, that's why I'm in business in the first place.

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Bootcamp assignment would be to approach people, start a convo, start fluff talk, with anyone I"m comfortable with, say I'm in the business, elicit information about where they are living, who they are living with, and then leave my card - get into the habit of doing this, will be good to promote my business.

A hb will be confused to intentions, whether I'm after business or after her - this is good, let her stay in suspense.

 

[donjuanapprentice01]

Luke,

Reading your posts on that other forum, I can see why you are struggling as a Real Estate Agent. Getting and keeping clients and picking up chicks are co-related. In both your career and in the dating world, you have to be able to sell yourself! And, I can see you are struggling to do so.

To have a career in Real Estate selling homes, you need to be outgoing, confident, charming, etc... you need to be able to sell much the same way that you talk and date chicks. In your posts on the other forum, you got upset that those clients went with other agents instead of you. But, I have to wonder why is that? Talking real estate here (as I'm in a related field and looking at getting a real estate licence) if I had a $500,000.00 house, I'd damn well want to be sure that the agent I pick can get that or at least very close to that listing price. If I see an agent that is tense, has difficulty communicating, lacks confidence, etc... I'm sorry, but I'm gonna bail on that guy, cuz I'm going to doubt that I'll be able to get the listing price or at least close to it. I need to think of my self interest first, and that is getting the best deal on my house that I can get. I think those clients you talked about, sensed a lack of confidence in you, and that's why they went somewhere else.

Confidence in yourself is KEY in any situation, not just with girls! If you want to be successful in life, you need to believe you will be successful, that's step 1. Imagine going to a doctor, and he doesn't have much confidence in himself. I doubt you would be his patient for very long.

Anyways, I'm in the same boat as you Luke, I'm struggling with my confidence. There are more days that I wake up in the morning feeling like a loser than I do a winner. The key is to wake up in the morning feeling like a winner. Then, and only then, will you start being successfull.

Good luck.

 

[ApC23]

so are we following the bootcamp that was posted on this site, or are you adding your own stuff?...i just got a job last week..well 2 jobs. so im finally being forced into more social situations. whats the assignment for this week?

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Continue practising interaction with people with your new jobs. I'm going to practise interaction by giving out a few business cards. I haven't gotten around to it yet, but will be starting soon. I'll be going up to people talking to them and passing it out, and get used to this stuff.

So keep on interacting for now, I'll come up with a new assignment shortly.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

GOT A DDBL -- I dont believe it, wow!!!!

Let me go over today's exercise.

I purposed to give out 10 business cards.

2 business cards to guys.

6 business cards to MILFs.

2 business cards to hb's.

I would just go up to people and say, Hey, how are you? I'm Giovanni, I'm a REALTOR, here's my card, and give the card with a smile. And then follow up and ask do you want to buy or sell a home?

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The feature reaction was with a MILF at Walmart who gave me this DDBL when I gave her the card. She just like stopped in her tracts and was like totally receptive, I was like WTF, the way she was looking I could have k-closed her on the spot or at lest number closed her.

Anyway, found out she was living with her brother so I had to eject, after all, I'm looking for women who are living by themselves, but have to practise ascertining women's living arrangement. She knew I was with my mom and dad, but didn't seem to care. I just liked the look she gave me, it really made me feel good, and she appeared to be a decent MILF, I wanted to start kino right there - but you know, I'm nervous around any female, so I have to do this in steps. This week, just give those darn cards out.

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The beauty of business cards is they are c0ckblock-proof, my mother was even in the background encouraging me to go in the store and give them out. My mom was encouraging me to make approaches to strangers and was willing to give me the space. I also felt good giving them out, after all, you never know when anyone may call that card anyway.

You can give them out to anyone, even if someone's attached or in a group, because you can mask your intentions under a businesss guise, after all, if you find out they live alone -- then it's time to really take action.

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The first two people were male - I did this for warm-up to give out cards.

The other six people were female, some were UG's, others were MILFS.
I just gave the cards out mainly to employees there, but I also gave a card out to strangers not working at the store. I'd approach them and just say "Hi. How are you?" This line seems to work cool, the "Hi, How are you? with a smile. Getting used to it. The MILF with DDBL was an employee btw.

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Did not see any HB's, so, I stopped after eight cards were given out and parked out. Feel good on that DDBL, but EJECTED as she lived with her brother. I liked her DDBL so good the first time, I went back to ascertain her living arrangements to see if I should close her or not.

Well, still go more business cards to give out tommorow! Think cards help with DHV.

 

[Desdinova]

Allright, I don't know about anybody else, but I've had enough. Time to let off some steam.

So far, this bootcamp on the surface so far seems to have been a waste of time.

Luke, not only has it been a complete waste of your time, but it's been a complete waste of everyone else's time. You've recieved some fantastic advice from many people, and even Nine Breaker came out of the woodwork to help you. Yet, you've gone nowhere.

Now, in case you haven't read it, THIS is the Don Juan Bootcamp outline:

Week #1 - Developing / Conveying Confidence
Week #2 - Initiating Conversations With Strangers
Week #3 - Approaching and Initiating Conversations With Girls
Week #4 - Handling Objections and Dealing With Rejections
Week #5 - Setting Up Initial Date / What To Do On First Date
Week #6 - Setting Up Subsequent Dates / Increasing Interest Level
Week #7 - Building Up Intimacy

Now then, I have to ask, WHAT THE FVCK ARE YOU DOING?

I now understand why you're 30 years old, a virgin, single, and living with your parents. You have no clue what you want to do with yourself. You keep running around in circles, trying to please all of us, possibly even to humour us, and you have no fvcking clue what it is YOU want to do. Your life has no purpose of its own and no direction. You haven't budged from the place you grew up in. You've been living under a rock for the past 30 years. That's a long time to waste in momma's nest.

You've been making excuses for yourself NOT to move out from your parents place, NOT to get a better job, NOT to go out in public alone, NOT to get a girlfriend, and NOT to get laid. Until you quit feeding yourself bull5hit, you're not going to get anywhere.

Anyway, I'm going to leave you running in circles in your threads. I can't stand to read anymore of your 5hit.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Allright, I don't know about anybody else, but I've had enough. Time to let off some steam.

Anger rests in the bosom of fools. You have been a helpful guide now you are losing face with me with this post.

Now, in case you haven't read it, THIS is the Don Juan Bootcamp outline:



Now then, I have to ask, WHAT THE FVCK ARE YOU DOING?

Approaching and talking to women. That's exactly what I did today. That's week 2 or something of the bootcamp.

I now understand why you're 30 years old, a virgin, single, and living with your parents.

Oh, so this makes my bootcamps less valid? Talk about discrimination.

You have no clue what you want to do with yourself. You keep running around in circles, trying to please all of us, possibly even to humour us, and you have no fvcking clue what it is YOU want to do.

Or maybe to conduct a bootcamp.

Your life has no purpose of its own and no direction. You haven't budged from the place you grew up in. You've been living under a rock for the past 30 years. That's a long time to waste in momma's nest.

Again, this has nothing to do with the bootcamp in general.

This is nice, I'm wasting time going out there and talking to people and talking to women and I get this sh1t.

Thanks for your encouragement!

You've been making excuses for yourself NOT to move out from your parents place, NOT to get a better job, NOT to go out in public alone, NOT to get a girlfriend, and NOT to get laid. Until you quit feeding yourself bull5hit, you're not going to get anywhere.

I ain't feeding myself with any BS. It seems that you think my bootcamp, which is taking from the rules of this board is BS?

If you have something to say against the bootcamp in relation to the bootcamp rules fine.

Anyway, I'm going to leave you running in circles in your threads. I can't stand to read anymore of your 5hit.

Good.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

This bootcamp shall continue to Saturday despite the futile attempts of the critics to undermine this bootcamp. I've helped adherents find jobs and interact with people and make no apologies to the positive difference it has made in the lives of adherents, and in my own life. Real-Estate agents are supposed to be socialable and talk to people anyway and give out cards. So, everyone is winning who is part of this bootcamp.

Each day, 10 business cards will be handed out in the same order perscribed as today until Saturday. Given the time restraints I have to prepare to go out of this country, I'm just limiting the effort to 10 cards. I plan to give out like 200 cards when I get back once I change companies.

All adherents who have found jobs since this bootcamp were last in session will continue interacting with people. Number closes will be on the agenda when this bootcamp goes back into session when I return from Italy in September sometimes following an approach warm-up.

For now just get comfortable talking to people in your new jobs, then you'll be comfortable interacting with women and feel good.
That's the focus for now.

 

[BingoBango]

Luke, you are the worst person here.

Worst at approaching.
Worst at getting laid.
Worst in ur career.
Worst regarding ur living situation (home at 30).

I'm trying to offend u as much as possible, because 'it's always darkest before dawn'. And if u be real, and realise how bad ur life is, maybe u'll have that 'sudden click' in ur mind where u decide ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I've been there man, I had such a moment at the age of 20, i am 22 now.

You have too many posts here. 500 in four months is TOO MUCH considering u seem to know less than someone with 1 post.

I tried to help u briefly, and it is infuriating when u try to help someone only to realise that that person is an idiot and a waste of time. Even the experienced DJs here are getting very frustrated with ur stupidity.

I have one last piece of advice for u, u need DRASTIC CHANGE

It seems that ur problems are well beyond what a bootcamp can solve, u need to find some pride in urself.

So, what is drastic change?

- Throw out ur computer, it is doing u no favours
- MOVE OUT of home, even go live with ur grandmother or some ****, just DO SOMETHING. If it was me, i would prefer to live on the street than be at home at 30 - at least i would have some pride in myself.
- QUIT UR JOB, or FIND A JOB whateva

CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE!!!!!!!

Please man, we want u to succeed. I'm a random uni student from sydney who hardly knows u, but still i really want u to succeed.

Please man, ur a walking disaster, ur becoming the laughing stock of this community - u and AngelusPUA are the comedy right now.

 

[dakota]

Luke,
Where do I begin. First I commend you for your efforts. I have a few suggestions and observations.
1. your approach to this matter appears to be way to clinical. You are approaching it almost as a scientific experiment.
2. You must ask yourself... why do I want to change? For whom do I want to change? What do you whant to change?
3. I percieve many resistances against change in your approach towards this, almost if you want to fail, do not mind failing.
4. Get off your damn High horse about being the " oldest most ultimate virgin on this board" It means nothing and you simply are using it as another roadblock. and at 39 I clearly have seniority over you on this issue anyways.
5. Take a look at yourself and where you would like to be. Write down goals that you hope to achieve by a certain day. Improve yourself for yourself, not for others. First step is to be happy with yourself before you can be happy with others.

 

[BingoBango]

I had a read thru some of Luke's old posts. The same **** reoccurs, he writes crap in a thread, then like 100 ppl feel sorry for him and try to help, giving him superb advice. But he doesnt listen at all. He is either a troll (perhaps it is AngelusPUA playing another dumb joke?) or he is one of the most stupid and useless ppl ever, and is incapable.

Either way, his genes will be weeded out of existence.

I'm going to "NEXT" this guy (ahah sounds funny) and suggest he be banned. He does not deserve everyone's time.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I tried to help u briefly, and it is infuriating when u try to help someone only to realise that that person is an idiot and a waste of time.

What help? You didn't give out any links, sure, anyone can advise some dating guru, sure, thanks.

Maybe people can help by backing the fvck off and stop treating me like a charity case.

- Throw out ur computer, it is doing u no favours
- MOVE OUT of home, even go live with ur grandmother or some ****, just DO SOMETHING. If it was me, i would prefer to live on the street than be at home at 30 - at least i would have some pride in myself.

Go and live on the street then come back and give me that advise.

- QUIT UR JOB, or FIND A JOB whateva

I'm not through with my career yet, there is still potential.

Please man, we want u to succeed. I'm a random uni student from sydney who hardly knows u, but still i really want u to succeed.

Please man, ur a walking disaster, ur becoming the laughing stock of this community - u and AngelusPUA are the comedy right now.

Yup, and to succeed I need to get rid of toxic people in my life.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Luke,
Where do I begin. First I commend you for your efforts. I have a few suggestions and observations.
1. your approach to this matter appears to be way to clinical. You are approaching it almost as a scientific experiment.

But, at least I'm 'doing something'.

2. You must ask yourself... why do I want to change? For whom do I want to change? What do you whant to change?

I'm not changing to please anyone on this board.

3. I percieve many resistances against change in your approach towards this, almost if you want to fail, do not mind failing.

If I wanted to fail I wouldn't be having a bootcamp in progress.

4. Get off your damn High horse about being the " oldest most ultimate virgin on this board" It means nothing and you simply are using it as another roadblock. and at 39 I clearly have seniority over you on this issue anyways.

It's too late for that.

5. Take a look at yourself and where you would like to be. Write down goals that you hope to achieve by a certain day. Improve yourself for yourself, not for others. First step is to be happy with yourself before you can be happy with others.

I already know this stuff. But, that's the best advise I've heard all day. "Improve yourself for yoruself, not for others". Hopefully people will learn to back off and offer constructive advise on whatever I'm moving in progress.

I dont know what the fvck is wrong with this board when it gets to the point I'm putting in an effort to be more socialable, making aproaches, and even promoting my business by giving out cards just to get flamed and sh1t here.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Post withdrawn.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

In the future, for myself and for bootcamp adherants. If you get serious IOI's from a girl or a DDBL (Doggie Dinner Bowl look) -- close for her number, even if you are NOT interested in her, because you may be interested in her a subsequent day, and if you dont have her number, you are screwed.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I had a read thru some of Luke's old posts. The same **** reoccurs, he writes crap in a thread, then like 100 ppl feel sorry for him and try to help, giving him superb advice. But he doesnt listen at all. He is either a troll (perhaps it is AngelusPUA playing another dumb joke?) or he is one of the most stupid and useless ppl ever, and is incapable.

Either way, his genes will be weeded out of existence.

I'm going to "NEXT" this guy (ahah sounds funny) and suggest he be banned. He does not deserve everyone's time.

Oh look at that, I creamed you on your last sh1t by reading your posts and saying you are only on here to quit jerking off, now you want to get even and jump on the bangwagon after Desinova had to say something.

Any other loser on here want to jump on the bandwagon and flame me?

The Bootcamp agenda will continue no matter what any punk says in here. The only advice that can be listened to are those relevant to the actual approaches that are made.

 

[pooparu]

Sorry bro, I'm gonna be a **** too.

Over the past however many months on SS, let's review what you have learned:

How to say Hi, how are you.
how to give out business cards.
How to bore a woman on a date.
How to overthink ever little thing.

Great, that's getting you laid like a rockstar a bet! :rockon:

Why not just take others advice and instead of reading, just go out, look your best, and just kick your balls ass and tell them to get going. **** gunwitch, **** ASF, **** mystery, **** so suave, just go out and live life. My father is a successful real estate agent, he is confident (or appears so to his clients), always is charming to them, etc, and he is a pretty fat guy, yet he's getting clients that other, better looking, younger agents can't get it.

Yet you are still here since you've been here saying the same thing, "I'm going to take steps". I've told you some of the best **** I think I could possibly think of, others have done the same, and I agree with them, its pretty pitiful and aggravating to see a guy ask for help, an entire community gives him incredible help, and he doesn't use it, a week later come back and go, "Alright well i read some other stuff, and I'm in the same situation as last week, still broke, still not laid, still not happy, what can I do to change?" and repeat the vicious cycle ad nauseum.

Changing is a conscious choice, we can't make it for you.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

The above is the best idea for you.

Luke, you have to realize that, for all intensive purposes, you haven't done anything new.

I'm sure, when you were completely oblivious to interacting with girls, you would just look at them, right? Isn't that what "scoping" is?

When you were oblivious to girls, you would go to a restaurant alone and just look around, not talking to anyone, right? Isn't that the "scoping" you keep referring to?

When you were oblivious to girls, you would build up the courage to talk to them, only to chicken out at the last minute and rationalize later, right? Isn't that what "mock approaches" are?

Your problem is that you're not improving. You don't challenge yourself, and you do things that you're already capable of doing, under the guise that you're getting 'comfortable', or some garbage. You're 30, in a profession that involves you dealing with people. You already know how to hold eye contact, and if you don't, that explains your finances. Yet, you're spending a whole week bootcamping for something you can already do. You're not stepping out of your comfort zone. If anything, you're withdrawing further inside of it. I don't mind the calculations and the robotics, if they are used to calculate and cyberize REAL approaches, which you don't have practice with. But seriously, walking around the mall, looking at people in the eyes? What are you meant to practice?

The best remedy to your situation is to move out and start working on your social circles. If you can improve the number of friends/clients/contacts you have, it will only grow exponentially. Friends will introduce you to other friends, clients to other clients, etc. Then, you can go to Casey's Grill & Bar or w/e, and have the "HBSEA" fix your laptop while your friends, some of which are undoubtedly attractive, sit around you. There is no better social proof than that.

THIS IS GOOD ADVISE. Already implemented in bootcamps. No EC - actual approaches now.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

LUKE

women will not like u or show interest in u if ur some skinny dweeb or a man walking aroudn trying to stare at them and then asking them polar bear questions!!!

hit the gym, get some SERIOUS clothing style, and do somethin good with ur hair

LOOKS is wats keeping u from success the most, and no amount of bootcamps will fix that!!! dont u get it ****er??

ur a lil peice of twig, u cant bench 40lbs, i kno ur hittint the gym.....well guess what?? hit the gym every single day for 2 hours, THAT should be ur goal right now

not starting at women for absolutely no reason other than to use it as jerk off material later on at home with ur tube sock over ur c0ck just in case ur parents come in.

STOP being pathetic, work on ur LOOKS and work on ur LOOK.......ur personality will follow. Bootcamp wont do SHYT till ur at least good looking
done

GREAT ADVISE. I'm already on the gym improving myself.

People who think I'm not listening to any stuff on this thread are dead wrong.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Luke, also try a Starbucks or another cool local coffee shop. People spend hours there reading, working on their puter and usually alone. You could even bring your computer and type up FRs while you're in the field scoping. The good thing about the coffee shop is you really don't 'approach', rather people are constantly coming in and out and sitting there next to you. For girls, the coffee shop is a pick up place, so it won't be as awkward as say a womens lingerie shop, when a pickup usually isn't appropriate.

Some obvious tricks for the coffe shop are to sit at another table directly across from your target. Don't stare or look when you sit close, but use your peripheral vision to tell if she looks over at you, then make EC and smile. If you get a smile back then you've got an IOI, so 'hi' and an introduction ready to go.

Sit by a window or an area that has open tables next to it. Don't sit oddly facinig the wrong way, especially to stare at a girl. If a single girl sits behind you or at an odd angle, get up, get some napkins, wipe of the table where you were sittting and sit at a different chair so you are facing her direction.

Bring a newspaper and pick out a cool event, after your intro and 'how are you today', mention the event and ask if she likes whatever you picked, like art show, craft fair, movie, concert, horseback riding, something a girl would like. Stay away from livestock shows, monster truck rallies, unless she looks like she would be into that If she says no, then ask what she likes to do for fun and ask her about it. If she says yes, then heres your chance to say that she should join you next weekend to do it. Then get her number. Finish your coffee and tell her that you have to go help your brother in law install a new transmission in his truck and exit.

I'm doing my own bootcamp and this is one of my routines, try it, it works.

Keep up the FRs Luke,

GREAT ADVISE -- it's relevant to bootcamp.