"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The International Don Juan Experiment

everywomanshero

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The Whole Chicago thing..

It looks increasingly likely that I'll be moving to Chicago. If anyone really wants to organize a Chicago meeting that will be easy as I am going to the campus and apartment shopping there a few times between now and Jan. unless something drastically changes.

As for other locations, my broke ass is now too poor to go anywhere with the move and all :( On the other hands, I'll be spending a semister abroad through school sometime within the next 2 years which is really cool.

What do you guys think about a tournament :) Maybe have the hustler award for the guy who does the most approaches, 1st 2nd and 3rd Place based on points like fclose, kclose, etc.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Milwaukee, WI...i'll join. chicago works too.

i have a friend that lives in the NYC area that def needs some assistance, so count him in.
 

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hey....

any body in England????

i think its a good idea, maybe we could rent out a bar for the night in birmingham central England, sounds like great fun, music, alcohol and a dosen djs, sounds cool!!!!!!!!!

il be observing this thread and when there is a good few up for it il start to make plans, just get your name down!
anybody up for this in england!!!!:up:
 

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Originally posted by everywomanshero
This idea (originally posted as "Don Juan Open" in the Discussion forum) is in a state of evolution and the start of a revolution in seduction techniques. Changes will occur. The point of this thread is to find who is interested in attending and exactly what we hope to accomplish.

What will occur is a pilgrimage of DJs and PUAs to a few select points in the World. There we'll attempt to seduce, obtain phone numbers, obtain dates, etc. We will disect the successful encounters and (hopefully) obtain a greater understanding of what really works in the field. I also hope to conduct "semi controlled" studies where we begin with a hypothesis and then test this against a control group not using the technique in question. ALl of this (I feel) should be in the spirit of good fun and allow time for everyone to hang out and have a good time.

It allows us some validation of techniques, gives us a chance to measure our progress, promote fellowship in the DJ community, and allows us to give each other first hand advice. The idea is to have fun, learn, and see what really works without flame wars or negativity. Let the results speak for themselves, I say.


Please do not hesitate to post suggestions. I would also recommend posting your city if you're interested so we can begin selecting locations.

We will need volunteers to give speeches, conduct field experiments, and offer their homes as homestays.


Please be aware this this idea is a nightmere for dating theorist who do not apply techniques in the real world. They will say it has no application to long term relationships, is poor ethics, or anything possible to justify their lack of field experience or willingness to search for truth. If you're ready to leave fantasy land and get better results in the real world, then this is a great place to start, IMHO. Please join our empirical revolution of seduction techniques.
you are making a complicated science experiment out of a simple matter, that right there is recipe for failure.
 

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Re: Location

Originally posted by everywomanshero
We have two major countries that seem interested: US & Canada. Would it be better to hold one event in each country first, and try arranging a master meet later? What is your opinions on location?
Perhaps, we should put it to a vote?

I personally would vote for Chicago in USA as it is in the middle and Toronto or Montreal in Canada. What do you guys think?
I'd actually say Toronto would be the best bet. First off - it's huge. It's like Canada's New York.
Second reason is because the legal drinking age is 19 not 21, making it easier for some of our younger audience to get into clubs.
3rd reason - it's close to the border and close to NY...
4th reason, a lot of VERY stron dj's are from the same area (Mystery , Tyler D.) and hopefully it would be easier to get them to come back to their "hometown".

So far it looks like T.O. and Chicago.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Originally posted by qweretyuiopas
It is times like these that I wish I wasnt poor and had a car so I could go
I don't have a car and i'm poor. Make up the funds. It won't be for a while. I'm taking a train to T.O. and flying to chicago possibly.
 

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Originally posted by syncmaster
I don't have a car and i'm poor. Make up the funds. It won't be for a while. I'm taking a train to T.O. and flying to chicago possibly.
I cant just make up funds I dont have a job, and I cant just leave out the country on a train and tell my parents "I'm going to go meet up with some guys I talked to on the internet and go pick up girls" My mom is so overprotective even though im 18 she prob wouldnt even let me go by myself
 

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We won't let anything happen...

We're not going to let anything happen to you man. She doesn't have to worry. When I was 18 I took a bus from Chicago to Toronto to stay with a woman I was an egagged to. I'm still alive and you'll only be gone a single weekend :)

Anyway, I'm wondering how difficult it is to pickup in Chicago. I'm always hearing guys complain about Toronto, but I found the people there very friendly. Has something changed recently? Has anyone who has sarged many cities got an opinion on which cities tend to be difficult.

I'm in St. Louis right now. It's very easy to pickup women here. You can find them in the city or even easier in the surrounding areas.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Re: We won't let anything happen...

Originally posted by everywomanshero
We're not going to let anything happen to you man. She doesn't have to worry. When I was 18 I took a bus from Chicago to Toronto to stay with a woman I was an egagged to. I'm still alive and you'll only be gone a single weekend :)
You just dont know man, I have no money and I cant drive never been out of the city w/o my parents. They would not let me go and even if they did I HAVE NO MONEY. Now, if I had money and I knew how to drive then they prob wouldnt have a problem and I would do it, but that isnt the case. They would never let me go and they certainly wouldnt pay for it and let me go so I wont be going, but maybe sometime when I have a job and money and I can drive, then Im all in.
 

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Re: Re: We won't let anything happen...

Originally posted by qweretyuiopas
You just dont know man, I have no money and I cant drive never been out of the city w/o my parents. They would not let me go and even if they did I HAVE NO MONEY. Now, if I had money and I knew how to drive then they prob wouldnt have a problem and I would do it, but that isnt the case. They would never let me go and they certainly wouldnt pay for it and let me go so I wont be going, but maybe sometime when I have a job and money and I can drive, then Im all in.
:confused: sucks to be you?
 

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Catch, The_Shezzler and me for.... England!

and I'll ask my wingman to come along.

so that's 4 for England.


this might need a mention in one of the other groups.... becuase I hardly ever look in here.
 

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Keep me posted - defintiely in if in NYC, will travel to Chicago, Montreal, Toronto...... possibly the other areas depending on my schedule.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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