"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The International Don Juan Experiment

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The Whole Chicago thing..

It looks increasingly likely that I'll be moving to Chicago. If anyone really wants to organize a Chicago meeting that will be easy as I am going to the campus and apartment shopping there a few times between now and Jan. unless something drastically changes.

As for other locations, my broke ass is now too poor to go anywhere with the move and all :( On the other hands, I'll be spending a semister abroad through school sometime within the next 2 years which is really cool.

What do you guys think about a tournament :) Maybe have the hustler award for the guy who does the most approaches, 1st 2nd and 3rd Place based on points like fclose, kclose, etc.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Milwaukee, WI...i'll join. chicago works too.

i have a friend that lives in the NYC area that def needs some assistance, so count him in.
 

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hey....

any body in England????

i think its a good idea, maybe we could rent out a bar for the night in birmingham central England, sounds like great fun, music, alcohol and a dosen djs, sounds cool!!!!!!!!!

il be observing this thread and when there is a good few up for it il start to make plans, just get your name down!
anybody up for this in england!!!!:up:
 

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Originally posted by everywomanshero
This idea (originally posted as "Don Juan Open" in the Discussion forum) is in a state of evolution and the start of a revolution in seduction techniques. Changes will occur. The point of this thread is to find who is interested in attending and exactly what we hope to accomplish.

What will occur is a pilgrimage of DJs and PUAs to a few select points in the World. There we'll attempt to seduce, obtain phone numbers, obtain dates, etc. We will disect the successful encounters and (hopefully) obtain a greater understanding of what really works in the field. I also hope to conduct "semi controlled" studies where we begin with a hypothesis and then test this against a control group not using the technique in question. ALl of this (I feel) should be in the spirit of good fun and allow time for everyone to hang out and have a good time.

It allows us some validation of techniques, gives us a chance to measure our progress, promote fellowship in the DJ community, and allows us to give each other first hand advice. The idea is to have fun, learn, and see what really works without flame wars or negativity. Let the results speak for themselves, I say.


Please do not hesitate to post suggestions. I would also recommend posting your city if you're interested so we can begin selecting locations.

We will need volunteers to give speeches, conduct field experiments, and offer their homes as homestays.


Please be aware this this idea is a nightmere for dating theorist who do not apply techniques in the real world. They will say it has no application to long term relationships, is poor ethics, or anything possible to justify their lack of field experience or willingness to search for truth. If you're ready to leave fantasy land and get better results in the real world, then this is a great place to start, IMHO. Please join our empirical revolution of seduction techniques.
you are making a complicated science experiment out of a simple matter, that right there is recipe for failure.
 

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Re: Location

Originally posted by everywomanshero
We have two major countries that seem interested: US & Canada. Would it be better to hold one event in each country first, and try arranging a master meet later? What is your opinions on location?
Perhaps, we should put it to a vote?

I personally would vote for Chicago in USA as it is in the middle and Toronto or Montreal in Canada. What do you guys think?
I'd actually say Toronto would be the best bet. First off - it's huge. It's like Canada's New York.
Second reason is because the legal drinking age is 19 not 21, making it easier for some of our younger audience to get into clubs.
3rd reason - it's close to the border and close to NY...
4th reason, a lot of VERY stron dj's are from the same area (Mystery , Tyler D.) and hopefully it would be easier to get them to come back to their "hometown".

So far it looks like T.O. and Chicago.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by qweretyuiopas
It is times like these that I wish I wasnt poor and had a car so I could go
I don't have a car and i'm poor. Make up the funds. It won't be for a while. I'm taking a train to T.O. and flying to chicago possibly.
 

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Originally posted by syncmaster
I don't have a car and i'm poor. Make up the funds. It won't be for a while. I'm taking a train to T.O. and flying to chicago possibly.
I cant just make up funds I dont have a job, and I cant just leave out the country on a train and tell my parents "I'm going to go meet up with some guys I talked to on the internet and go pick up girls" My mom is so overprotective even though im 18 she prob wouldnt even let me go by myself
 

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We won't let anything happen...

We're not going to let anything happen to you man. She doesn't have to worry. When I was 18 I took a bus from Chicago to Toronto to stay with a woman I was an egagged to. I'm still alive and you'll only be gone a single weekend :)

Anyway, I'm wondering how difficult it is to pickup in Chicago. I'm always hearing guys complain about Toronto, but I found the people there very friendly. Has something changed recently? Has anyone who has sarged many cities got an opinion on which cities tend to be difficult.

I'm in St. Louis right now. It's very easy to pickup women here. You can find them in the city or even easier in the surrounding areas.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Re: We won't let anything happen...

Originally posted by everywomanshero
We're not going to let anything happen to you man. She doesn't have to worry. When I was 18 I took a bus from Chicago to Toronto to stay with a woman I was an egagged to. I'm still alive and you'll only be gone a single weekend :)
You just dont know man, I have no money and I cant drive never been out of the city w/o my parents. They would not let me go and even if they did I HAVE NO MONEY. Now, if I had money and I knew how to drive then they prob wouldnt have a problem and I would do it, but that isnt the case. They would never let me go and they certainly wouldnt pay for it and let me go so I wont be going, but maybe sometime when I have a job and money and I can drive, then Im all in.
 

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Re: Re: We won't let anything happen...

Originally posted by qweretyuiopas
You just dont know man, I have no money and I cant drive never been out of the city w/o my parents. They would not let me go and even if they did I HAVE NO MONEY. Now, if I had money and I knew how to drive then they prob wouldnt have a problem and I would do it, but that isnt the case. They would never let me go and they certainly wouldnt pay for it and let me go so I wont be going, but maybe sometime when I have a job and money and I can drive, then Im all in.
:confused: sucks to be you?
 

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Catch, The_Shezzler and me for.... England!

and I'll ask my wingman to come along.

so that's 4 for England.


this might need a mention in one of the other groups.... becuase I hardly ever look in here.
 

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Keep me posted - defintiely in if in NYC, will travel to Chicago, Montreal, Toronto...... possibly the other areas depending on my schedule.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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