"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The High School Forum Is Dying

black jesus

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The high school forum is filled with nothing but journals and that is making it really dull. im not trying to say that journals are bad i mean that would be hypocritical because i own two lol. im trying to say that the high school forum needs some excitement!! we are the future of the don juans we need to make this a fun experience not something of a monotone.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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black jesus

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Proposal

scudge said:
I agree. What are you proposing?
i am proposing that there should be a series of treads that involve participation because in the high school forum there are a lot of lurkers who just read and read and then do not practice what they read. i saw a thread earlier about some kind of 2nd annual competition which i signed up for but now i realize that since those competition are for the more advanced don juan the challenges could be awkward for the high school DJ's so i suggest they make a teenage version

also i feel that they should have moderators for the teenage sub forums that are actually teenagers :rock: it might help
 

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black jesus, NDJ is a mod and a teenager. He's going through the exact same stuff, even keeps a journal of it.

I could get into threads that have discussion though. It's hard to read through so many journals and find the discussion points, especially when it takes so long to read some journals already. If I have a good question that I come through in my journal, I'll definitely start posting it up here, to see if we can get some good talks going. Good criticism.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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TheMusic

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Perhaps we should put all the Journals in a subforum?
 

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Norway, bumping this so you see it. A subforum for journals is a brilliant idea.

I think the next logical step is to rip down the stickies we have now (maybe move to an Archive subforum?) and put up a definitive High School bible. Between Nino and Norway and the other brilliant minds on this forum and the rest, I think we could really make something solid. Give back to the community that started us on our way.

Amo
 

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amohield said:
Norway, bumping this so you see it. A subforum for journals is a brilliant idea.

I think the next logical step is to rip down the stickies we have now (maybe move to an Archive subforum?) and put up a definitive High School bible. Between Nino and Norway and the other brilliant minds on this forum and the rest, I think we could really make something solid. Give back to the community that started us on our way.

Amo
Now a journal subforum isn't necessarily a bad idea, but I think that we should be careful that we keep our priorities straight.

This forum shouldn't be about discussing theory or tactics, or talking about things that happened in the past, it should be about actually getting girls. The only threads that reflect that are journals.

It's really important that people get feedback through their journal, so it makes me nervous to put them in a subforum where fewer people will check them and read through new posts.

Something to keep in mind.
 

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It'll keep it more clear. People will know what are journals, and if they want to read them, they'll know where to find them. There can be a sticky, with a list of active journals and some must-read journals.
Than we can use the Highschool part for information, and tactics, and reflect the results in the journals.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I think it would be a bad idea. Tactics vs ideals, ideals win every time. There aren't many ideals threads besides the journals, which are dense with them.

Action > Information x 10

LearningSlowly said:
This forum shouldn't be about discussing theory or tactics, or talking about things that happened in the past, it should be about actually getting girls. The only threads that reflect that are journals.

It's really important that people get feedback through their journal, so it makes me nervous to put them in a subforum where fewer people will check them and read through new posts.
This.

I think all of you newcomers are to focused on the small picture at the moment. After a couple of dozen girls you'll want to stop posting a thread for each one. Especially when a pattern emerges. You will also catch that pattern a lot faster if you have a journal.
 

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I think journals are more a sign of life than death.

Starting with Norwegian, followed up by myself, nova, and a few others and now we have a pretty active High School Forum with people who read the journals and are inspired to participate for themselves.

Otherwise this forum would just be a bunch of the same old questions about what to text her or online gaming...
 

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I second BPH's comment.
Journals are sometimes the best signs of progress. My journal kept me accountable of my progress (or lack of, at certain occasions).

Also, I like how each journal is like a subforum itself. People can give constructive criticism, praise when deserved, and encouragement. I know that without certain posters who were there, I would have given up by now.
 

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Maybe it would be nice, if there isn't going to be a subforum, to put a journal tag in front of the title of the journals (Something like [J], or [JRNL]), so people can easily see the difference between journals and ordinary questions.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm actually digging the journals. Way back in the day (I won't age myself by saying how far back...Older than my join date though!) there were a LOT of questions but no real responses. With the journals, I am actually getting to see a lot of you guys evolve and step your game up. This is actually one of the highest points I have seen the High School Forum at since the days of The Matrix: Reloaded, Brazilian Blues Boy, Lorenzo/KinoOI, Jester, Whatsupwiddat, misunderstood??, Eternal, Cablelight, syncmaster, Nocturnal, and the other greats.

Yeah, there are some things I'd change, but right now, this place is showing life. Let's keep it up!
 

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TheVirtualMind said:
I'm actually digging the journals. Way back in the day (I won't age myself by saying how far back...Older than my join date though!) there were a LOT of questions but no real responses. With the journals, I am actually getting to see a lot of you guys evolve and step your game up. This is actually one of the highest points I have seen the High School Forum at since the days of The Matrix: Reloaded, Brazilian Blues Boy, Lorenzo/KinoOI, Jester, Whatsupwiddat, misunderstood??, Eternal, Cablelight, syncmaster, Nocturnal, and the other greats.

Yeah, there are some things I'd change, but right now, this place is showing life. Let's keep it up!
Lol. Missed this post when it happened.

It's interesting to know that this forum has a history, beyond the months that I've been on it. And it's cool to know I'm following in a successful person's footsteps.

I post a lot up here (because I check this site as obsessively as my facebook, unfortunately) and I know I help some people, but I'm looking forward to some of these other guys catching up to the progress I've made so far (and me catching up to the ones ahead). Journals are the only threads I really ENJOY reading. I'll have opinions on those random topics, but I like understanding the person behind the name.

Can you guys imagine the day when every member of this core group has a 10+ page journal? We're going to know each other well, and know what we're each capable of. There will be a lot more stories of girls being kissed and virginities being lost.

For some of us though, we have one semester and the summer left. Then it's off to college or the rest of our lives. Let's get to work.
 

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TheVirtualMind said:
This is actually one of the highest points I have seen the High School Forum at since the days of The Matrix: Reloaded, Brazilian Blues Boy, Lorenzo/KinoOI, Jester, Whatsupwiddat, misunderstood??, Eternal, Cablelight, syncmaster, Nocturnal, and the other greats.
Dont forget Sammo. Those guys were amazing.
 
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