"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The HB# rating system...

slitherjef

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Should not be used. Why? Because I think its pointless and stupid. What do you people do? Carry around the equivalent of a macbeth chart ( http://www.pictureline.com/newsletter/2004/august/colorchart.html ) for women? You pull the chart out and see if the chick you are interested in matches the template for a HB9? And if she dont match the template, then eff it, she aint worth your time? Or if she has a 10 face but a 9 body you say well, she is a 9.5? Ridiculous

Why the phuck was this number system invented anyway, so you can call up your buddy and say you slept with a 10? Who cares? Seems to me this so called "HB# rating system" is just to brag. Stop the damn HB rating system. You want to rate a hot babe with a number? Hows about her phucking credit score? Its stupid.

The bottom line is:

If you think a girl is hot, then she is hot.... at least in your opinion! Does me knowing what your rating you gave her matter? Of course not! If I say your HB 9 is an 8? Is that going to keep you from thinking other wise? Of course not. The HB# system don't matter and don't impress me when you say you got a phone number from a 10. I DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS! You wanna know why? Because as far as can tell, that number rating you gave that girl is over inflated just to make your self feel better in front of the other guys. STOP PHUCKING BRAGGING!

Don't rate using numbers. DO RATE SUCH AS "Cute" or "Hot" or, "yeah, she was all right", Or "not attractive to me", Or even "ugly"

I know looking at numbers never got me hard, but looking at girls actualy did...

Im going to step off my soap box now and if you want to send me your disagreement's, thats fine... just flush em down your toilet :D
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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tick37

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It looks like you needed something to complain about. Anyway, your HB might not be a HB to me. So, don't sweat the small stuff.
 

slitherjef

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tick37 said:
It looks like you needed something to complain about. Anyway, your HB might not be a HB to me. So, don't sweat the small stuff.
Yeah, thats has been nagging me for a while. I just think using numbers is stupid
 

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The whole basis for much (if not most) of the stuff we discuss on here-how to treat particular women and what they will respond to- is completely dependent on her frame and how she's used to being treated.

Don't forget that. It's critical when it comes to determining certain parts of your strategy.

I won't engage you in a debate about how accurate the system is, as that part of your point is shared with me (even if a little redundant)... what I may see as a 10, you may see as an 8. Fair enough.

But the woman's collective treatment by AFCs or society at large, is what has shaped her attitude and outlook. Back to the previous example, whether she is exactly and 8 or 10 doesn't matter-what does matter is that most of us can agree is more or less considered attractive, and has endured approaches by AFCs, been gamed by players, etc-and has formed a series of opinions and responses due to the "majority" perception of her. The law is averages is what's important here, not the out-lying individual responses.

I think it's up to each guy to decide what portion of these varied strategies is applicable to individual woman, whether it be the use of this scale or other things. Just like there may not be constant agreement on the HB scale, some techniques are not appropriate for all women, and some techniques will backfire in situations which they seemed completely appropriate.

So-if your argument is that the scale is arbitrary to some extent, I won't debate it.

If your argument is that the "spirit" of this scale is baseless, useless, or only serves to brag-then I would say you are absolutely 100% wrong, and won't find much use or in value in a lot of what is written in this forum.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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lets keep in mind that the original poster is horrendously out of shape (he posted a pic before), so i think instead of talking about HB's looks, he should be working on HIMSELF
 

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Total Control said:
lets keep in mind that the original poster is horrendously out of shape (he posted a pic before), so i think instead of talking about HB's looks, he should be working on HIMSELF
what does that have to do with the rating system, oh and who are you?
 

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hes got a point. all that matters is this... do you want to fvck her or not? Who gives a **** what another man thinks. But the rating system helps to see who is pedestaling and who isn't.
 

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It's been around since man learnt to count on his fingers. 'Ug give She-Rok 8 fingers... Ug wouldn't kick her out of cave for getting mammoth juice in bed, hur hur'
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'm about to make a post explaining the real detriment to this system.
 

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Never have any of my friends used the number system...a simple yes or no to f*ckin them would suffice....however, thats still subjective...So regardless of a "rating" system, the subjectivity is always an issue.
 

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Subjectivity is only an issue when you consider the subject, ie, the individual.

Once you get a group consensus with a large enough sample size, objectivity increases, and the number starts to mean something. Yes, you will have anomalies, you will have people who prefer different looks, but in general, a higher rating among a larger group means a more attractive woman.

Rating attractiveness is not completely subjective anyway. On the BBC's The Human Face documentary they found that people who were rated as attractive had generally the same facial proportions, regardless of race. They distilled it down into a formula, a "mask" that can be put on attractive faces and match:

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/mba_facevariationsbysex_page.htm

As well as this, other things to look for included symmetry, waist-to-hip ratio, similarity to parents, similarity to self:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/love/attraction.shtml
 
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