Reyaj
Master Don Juan
You can put in a lot of time and effort to pursue a girl.... raise her IL.... and seem to be on the right track.... They can flake or lose IL in an instant!
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Agreed.Boilermaker said:Not at all hard to accept.
The contemporary understanding of this, especially in this forum, is that you should not care about flakes or "failures" because you shall strive to be that fantabulous man you know you can be. Ultimately, you must either be too cool or too happy to give a fvck.
Then individuals from the hordes shall become insignificant because their true values will be coldly judged with a rational and content mindset.
In short, this is accepting the reality and taking it as it is.
Caring about a woman who you don't even know and feeling bad about her flakiness, therefore, is pure folly and nothing more.
Yes this is the underlying theory this forum preaches... I think it is the right approach as well. However when you do put some effort in, and it seems like you are making progress only to have it crash and burn so rapidly does get a bit discouraging. I am just stating that this reality of the game is difficult.. especially if you are human. The worst is when you can't explain what happend.... I like to know everythingBoilermaker said:Not at all hard to accept.
The contemporary understanding of this, especially in this forum, is that you should not care about flakes or "failures" because you shall strive to be that fantabulous man you know you can be. Ultimately, you must either be too cool or too happy to give a fvck.
Then individuals from the hordes shall become insignificant because their true values will be coldly judged with a rational and content mindset.
In short, this is accepting the reality and taking it as it is.
Caring about a woman who you don't even know and feeling bad about her flakiness, therefore, is pure folly and nothing more.
runner83 said:Agreed.
Girls will flake always at various time for various reasons.
If you can't accept that it's her loss and move on to the next hot girl, you will get too emotionally attached, rather than playing the numbers.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
It's a little strange to tell guys what emotions they "should" feel. That's like telling them when they "should" be hungry or when they "should" have to use the bathroom.The contemporary understanding of this, especially in this forum, is that you should not care about flakes or "failures" because you shall strive to be that fantabulous man you know you can be.
Abso-fvcking-lutely!!!Reyaj said:Do you have to keep all your emotions guarded at all times??
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Haha, yeah I can see why you are sensitive about the issue.Zarky said:. I've been flaked on, and it sucks.
^^Slickster said:Abso-fvcking-lutely!!!
It doesn't matter how great or strong your relationship seems. Always, always, always protect your yourself.
Sure it seems unfair or ironic the way things happen sometimes. We as men have to be stronger. Women seem to be able to shrug off a man's flakiness without problem. Learn from that and those little scars will get smaller and smaller.
Eventually you will meet a woman who is "ready" to be real. Will you?
This is the best.Slickster said:Abso-fvcking-lutely!!!
It doesn't matter how great or strong your relationship seems. Always, always, always protect your yourself.
Sure it seems unfair or ironic the way things happen sometimes. We as men have to be stronger. Women seem to be able to shrug off a man's flakiness without problem. Learn from that and those little scars will get smaller and smaller.
Eventually you will meet a woman who is "ready" to be real. Will you?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I do agree it can be really frustrating, sometimes quite hurtful if you really like a girl, but the lesson here is not to put too much emphasis on her and to treat every approach, date, escalation etc as an experience.Reyaj said:However when you do put some effort in, and it seems like you are making progress only to have it crash and burn so rapidly does get a bit discouraging. I am just stating that this reality of the game is difficult.. especially if you are human. The worst is when you can't explain what happend.... I like to know everything
The difference is that a girl isn't one of your "buds". If she flakes, she gets replaced. If there's a commitment...I wouldn't be committed to a girl who pulls that crap. And if she does, I WOULD let her know it's not cool, but I'd consider it partly my fault for not seeing it coming.Solomon said:Flaking isn't black and white
You can't always move on and guys who say they aren't affected by this are lying or don't get flaked on(which I highly doubt unless you Brad Pitt Status). The reality is Flaking is disrespectful, and depending on the disrespect you may take it personal or not. When my buddies flake on me, i don't just "ignore" it, I call them out on it. Sometimes I do the same with women but most of the time why bother. The thing is you can't get emotionally invested however even for those most seasoned of gamer this can throw him of when he has a girl with high IL flake out the blue.
That's the right attitude to have.The best thing you can do is have a mentality of abundance and know that there more women out there!
My mentally is always, I'll meet another she may not be as hot as this one but eventually I will meet another one just as hot or hotter!
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.