Reyaj
Master Don Juan
You can put in a lot of time and effort to pursue a girl.... raise her IL.... and seem to be on the right track.... They can flake or lose IL in an instant!
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Agreed.Boilermaker said:Not at all hard to accept.
The contemporary understanding of this, especially in this forum, is that you should not care about flakes or "failures" because you shall strive to be that fantabulous man you know you can be. Ultimately, you must either be too cool or too happy to give a fvck.
Then individuals from the hordes shall become insignificant because their true values will be coldly judged with a rational and content mindset.
In short, this is accepting the reality and taking it as it is.
Caring about a woman who you don't even know and feeling bad about her flakiness, therefore, is pure folly and nothing more.
Yes this is the underlying theory this forum preaches... I think it is the right approach as well. However when you do put some effort in, and it seems like you are making progress only to have it crash and burn so rapidly does get a bit discouraging. I am just stating that this reality of the game is difficult.. especially if you are human. The worst is when you can't explain what happend.... I like to know everythingBoilermaker said:Not at all hard to accept.
The contemporary understanding of this, especially in this forum, is that you should not care about flakes or "failures" because you shall strive to be that fantabulous man you know you can be. Ultimately, you must either be too cool or too happy to give a fvck.
Then individuals from the hordes shall become insignificant because their true values will be coldly judged with a rational and content mindset.
In short, this is accepting the reality and taking it as it is.
Caring about a woman who you don't even know and feeling bad about her flakiness, therefore, is pure folly and nothing more.
runner83 said:Agreed.
Girls will flake always at various time for various reasons.
If you can't accept that it's her loss and move on to the next hot girl, you will get too emotionally attached, rather than playing the numbers.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
It's a little strange to tell guys what emotions they "should" feel. That's like telling them when they "should" be hungry or when they "should" have to use the bathroom.The contemporary understanding of this, especially in this forum, is that you should not care about flakes or "failures" because you shall strive to be that fantabulous man you know you can be.
Abso-fvcking-lutely!!!Reyaj said:Do you have to keep all your emotions guarded at all times??
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Haha, yeah I can see why you are sensitive about the issue.Zarky said:. I've been flaked on, and it sucks.
^^Slickster said:Abso-fvcking-lutely!!!
It doesn't matter how great or strong your relationship seems. Always, always, always protect your yourself.
Sure it seems unfair or ironic the way things happen sometimes. We as men have to be stronger. Women seem to be able to shrug off a man's flakiness without problem. Learn from that and those little scars will get smaller and smaller.
Eventually you will meet a woman who is "ready" to be real. Will you?
This is the best.Slickster said:Abso-fvcking-lutely!!!
It doesn't matter how great or strong your relationship seems. Always, always, always protect your yourself.
Sure it seems unfair or ironic the way things happen sometimes. We as men have to be stronger. Women seem to be able to shrug off a man's flakiness without problem. Learn from that and those little scars will get smaller and smaller.
Eventually you will meet a woman who is "ready" to be real. Will you?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I do agree it can be really frustrating, sometimes quite hurtful if you really like a girl, but the lesson here is not to put too much emphasis on her and to treat every approach, date, escalation etc as an experience.Reyaj said:However when you do put some effort in, and it seems like you are making progress only to have it crash and burn so rapidly does get a bit discouraging. I am just stating that this reality of the game is difficult.. especially if you are human. The worst is when you can't explain what happend.... I like to know everything
The difference is that a girl isn't one of your "buds". If she flakes, she gets replaced. If there's a commitment...I wouldn't be committed to a girl who pulls that crap. And if she does, I WOULD let her know it's not cool, but I'd consider it partly my fault for not seeing it coming.Solomon said:Flaking isn't black and white
You can't always move on and guys who say they aren't affected by this are lying or don't get flaked on(which I highly doubt unless you Brad Pitt Status). The reality is Flaking is disrespectful, and depending on the disrespect you may take it personal or not. When my buddies flake on me, i don't just "ignore" it, I call them out on it. Sometimes I do the same with women but most of the time why bother. The thing is you can't get emotionally invested however even for those most seasoned of gamer this can throw him of when he has a girl with high IL flake out the blue.
That's the right attitude to have.The best thing you can do is have a mentality of abundance and know that there more women out there!
My mentally is always, I'll meet another she may not be as hot as this one but eventually I will meet another one just as hot or hotter!
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.