"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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So I need advice on this situation. Let's keep it short.

Close friend had a gf, HB X. Broke up, now HB X attracted me, I get the vibe. I like HB X now, want to get her number and date her. But asked friend about how he felt towards her now, still confused as to why they broke up. I take it he still has feelings for her. Haven't talked to him about me going after her. Bros before hos?

Advice?
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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Have to ask yourself...is she good enough to risk a friendship over? If your buddy is still pining for her it would definately cause some friction. I know lots of guys who would find it easierto ask for forgiveness than permission..
 

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I don't think you should pursue this. Seen situations like this ruin friendships forever. Not saying that's a given here, but I wouldn't do it.
 

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True. If he's a close friend stay away. Find another girl. Between close friends exes are forbidden territory.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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That girl is toying with you because it is "forbidden" and the thought of two good friends ending a friendship over HER is probably the greatest ego boost a girl can receive.

Don't be an idiot. You'll destroy the friendship and she'll dump you, anyway.
 

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a lot of the time stuff like this happens it causes friction but i think a large part of that is when it is hidden and then the friend suspects something is happening and then finds out and its all kind of weird, with trustworthyness issues then appearing, and the sneakyness thing coming into play

why not mention it to the friend and say you "look im sort of feeling this way about hb x, obviously this could be kind of weird but i thought i should ask you about it"...that way you can gauge how he feels about it and also you've been above board. if you were then to decide to pursue hb x i dont think this would harm your chances (even if friend told hb x)
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
That girl is toying with you because it is "forbidden" and the thought of two good friends ending a friendship over HER is probably the greatest ego boost a girl can receive.

Don't be an idiot. You'll destroy the friendship and she'll dump you, anyway.
One thing about I dislike about this forum is that every girl that a guy encounters problems with automatically becomes an all malevolent being that is set out to fck us guys sh1t up.

With that being said, I know she's not that type of person, I thought about it and I won't pursue this any further. My friendship is worth more than a relationship that may end anytime.
 

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mahoney said:
a lot of the time stuff like this happens it causes friction but i think a large part of that is when it is hidden and then the friend suspects something is happening and then finds out and its all kind of weird, with trustworthyness issues then appearing, and the sneakyness thing coming into play

why not mention it to the friend and say you "look im sort of feeling this way about hb x, obviously this could be kind of weird but i thought i should ask you about it"...that way you can gauge how he feels about it and also you've also been above board. if you were then to decide to pursue hb x i dont think this would harm your chances (even if friend told hb x)
I wouldn't ask him directly about it, he still has feelings for her and I've been through this before. Asking for permission when the guy is not over her will result in a broken friendship sooner or later.
 

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Konada said:
I wouldn't ask him directly about it, he still has feelings for her and I've been through this before. Asking for permission when the guy is not over her will result in a broken friendship sooner or later.
ah if he definitely still has feelings then yes thats dangerous waters. only thing i'd suggest is there is ANY likelyhood of something happening with the hbx i would discuss it with him before rather than trying to hide it and it come out later on. the former can hurt a friendship but can also heal in time, the latter will cause permanent damage to a friendship
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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