"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The girl's plan

keemojung

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What would u guys gonna do if u want to ask the girl out?

For me, I would call her and have lil chitchat for 2-3 min then

I will say do u have any plan this evening/ tmr evening?

If she say no, then i will say like "let's have some dinner, meet me at...

time at ..." and then say like see u and hung up.

The thing is what if she said that she was busy during that time

then i maybe ask her out again tomorrow.

BUT!! what if she is busy again, how do u guys handle this w/o being

looked needy and desperate?


P.S. Assume that the girl is really busy like studying very hard for an exam, applying for a challenging job like an air hostess, not just flaking to increase her social value.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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crazyboy

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Man its not rocket science just ask her what time she would be available. If you clear your schelude be with her on that date than go ahead. If she presist on being constantly busy then she not interest and you move on.
 

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Yeah, if she says she can't, then suggest a different day. If she says she can't either and still doesn't offer a day where SHE has time, then it's a no. "maybe" or "i'll text you when I know" is also no, at least in my experience.

But I have a question: is it good to do the 3min smalltalk before coming to the point? I mean I never do smalltalk on the phone and instead ask right away. What would you guys think is better and why?
 

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crazyboy said:
Man its not rocket science just ask her what time she would be available. If you clear your schelude be with her on that date than go ahead. If she presist on being constantly busy then she not interest and you move on.

Haha. Seriously, how is this a tough question...

How about you ask the girl, "Let's get a drink soon. How's your week looking?"

Then she says "I'm busy Mon, Tues, Wed, but I'd be free Thursday night..."

And look at that...you magically have a date for Thursday night!!!

Some of you guys make dating way too complicated.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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keemojung

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Iceberg said:
Haha. Seriously, how is this a tough question...

How about you ask the girl, "Let's get a drink soon. How's your week looking?"

Then she says "I'm busy Mon, Tues, Wed, but I'd be free Thursday night..."

And look at that...you magically have a date for Thursday night!!!

Some of you guys make dating way too complicated.
Thx for ur suggestion bro.

The thing is I used to hear some people in this forum saying that

u gotta be a man and take the lead.

Thus, when i call a girl to offer a date, i will say like

" hey, wht r u doin tmr evening?" If she say, she is free, then

I will say "ok let's have sth for a bite, meet me at ...., time at...."

and finally end the call.


With all due respect and no offense, im wondering if we say like ""Let's

get a drink soon. How's your week looking?" will sound desperate and not

in control?

Anyway, i will try your suggestion bro.


PS Maybe i am too overanalyzing it as it is just a date btw a man and a woman
 
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