"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What would u guys gonna do if u want to ask the girl out?

For me, I would call her and have lil chitchat for 2-3 min then

I will say do u have any plan this evening/ tmr evening?

If she say no, then i will say like "let's have some dinner, meet me at...

time at ..." and then say like see u and hung up.

The thing is what if she said that she was busy during that time

then i maybe ask her out again tomorrow.

BUT!! what if she is busy again, how do u guys handle this w/o being

looked needy and desperate?


P.S. Assume that the girl is really busy like studying very hard for an exam, applying for a challenging job like an air hostess, not just flaking to increase her social value.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Man its not rocket science just ask her what time she would be available. If you clear your schelude be with her on that date than go ahead. If she presist on being constantly busy then she not interest and you move on.
 
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Yeah, if she says she can't, then suggest a different day. If she says she can't either and still doesn't offer a day where SHE has time, then it's a no. "maybe" or "i'll text you when I know" is also no, at least in my experience.

But I have a question: is it good to do the 3min smalltalk before coming to the point? I mean I never do smalltalk on the phone and instead ask right away. What would you guys think is better and why?
 
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crazyboy said:
Man its not rocket science just ask her what time she would be available. If you clear your schelude be with her on that date than go ahead. If she presist on being constantly busy then she not interest and you move on.
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Haha. Seriously, how is this a tough question...

How about you ask the girl, "Let's get a drink soon. How's your week looking?"

Then she says "I'm busy Mon, Tues, Wed, but I'd be free Thursday night..."

And look at that...you magically have a date for Thursday night!!!

Some of you guys make dating way too complicated.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Iceberg said:
Haha. Seriously, how is this a tough question...

How about you ask the girl, "Let's get a drink soon. How's your week looking?"

Then she says "I'm busy Mon, Tues, Wed, but I'd be free Thursday night..."

And look at that...you magically have a date for Thursday night!!!

Some of you guys make dating way too complicated.
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Thx for ur suggestion bro.

The thing is I used to hear some people in this forum saying that

u gotta be a man and take the lead.

Thus, when i call a girl to offer a date, i will say like

" hey, wht r u doin tmr evening?" If she say, she is free, then

I will say "ok let's have sth for a bite, meet me at ...., time at...."

and finally end the call.


With all due respect and no offense, im wondering if we say like ""Let's

get a drink soon. How's your week looking?" will sound desperate and not

in control?

Anyway, i will try your suggestion bro.


PS Maybe i am too overanalyzing it as it is just a date btw a man and a woman
 
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