"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The Game Neil Strauss - Outdated material?

maverick72

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I was thinking of buying this book to improve my game.

Are the techniques in this book outdated? Any newer stuff on the market?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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To be honest, there isn't a lot of material in there as much as it is a glorified DJ journal. Not saying its bad. Well worth reading. I just didn't learn much from it. Its more about his experiences in the game than it is about teaching others.

I recommend 9-ball from RSD. That's a journal type as well, but you learn more from it.
 

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It's not meant to help you with your game. It's meant to be his story on becoming a part of the pickup community.

He talks about the techniques he learned, but it's just to give you an idea of what they are. In no way does he teach you how to use them. If you want to learn the actual method Strauss used read "The Mystery Method."

But if you want to read a good entertaining book read The Game.
 

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the key word in sarging is RAPPORT

You got to engage the woman into a CONVO IT S THAT SIMPLE


YOU ASK HER Qs always the same Qs so you re never at a loss for what to say
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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maverick72 said:
I was thinking of buying this book to improve my game.

Are the techniques in this book outdated? Any newer stuff on the market?
It's not meant to be a source of material for routines. It was written as a warning about how weird and dysfunctional the pickup community really is.
 

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aura said:
It's not meant to be a source of material for routines. It was written as a warning about how weird and dysfunctional the pickup community really is.
Bingo, but also talks about how Strauss improved the first half of the book is epic the second half is truly depressing

The first time I read it I was so gung ho about game and I improved rapidly the second time I read it I realized how depressing it was cause I finally understood what Strauss was talking about
 

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I've only read a hundred or so pages into it, but it's a good book that takes you into a new world that you may not have been in much before. You should try it out if you'd like a good read. There are many newer things on the market though - I believe the Game is about a decade old, and there are lots and lots of books out there.
 

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Solomon said:
Bingo, but also talks about how Strauss improved the first half of the book is epic the second half is truly depressing

The first time I read it I was so gung ho about game and I improved rapidly the second time I read it I realized how depressing it was cause I finally understood what Strauss was talking about
People don't get this. Nerds around the world still see this as a manual or how to guide of sorts and it's the farthest thing from it.

Neil has been interviewed recently, and he's still the shy, awkward dork he was decades ago, and he's still getting tooled. He still has not entered mainstream social circles. However, he is a revered nerd at the top of the geek hierarchy.
 

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It's carp, get Foundations by RSD. This is the only pua program you should ever get.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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