"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The Future of the Seduction Community

The Monolith

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I was scrolling through all the posts here today and it occured to me that in time all of this knowledge is probably going to become widely known. In fact it amazes me that most AFC guys have never googled this sort of information out. I am under the impression that most guys hold incorrect notions of what women find attractive (e.g. compliments, supplication) and rely mostly on looks or luck, infact most of my friends chastise me for doing anything remotely don juanish, seeing it as disrespectful. I partly attribute this to the depictions of men in popular culture, the terrible advice printed in popular men's magazines and the tendency to ask women for relationship advice, and in a way I am grateful for it as it means there's less competition.
What concerns me is that this could change very soon, the principles of the Bible, forum etc. aren't hard to grasp and this means that anyone with basic intelligence could potentially become a DJ. Media coverage of this is also increasing with more books, movies and television embodying the sosuave values.
Call me selfish but I think that if more guys get sick of the friendzone and this approach becomes the norm then we're all going back to square one as a new standard emerges. Perhaps there is nothing to worry about and the spread of this information will just result in a fairer distribution of women, I don't know. I would like to here some other people's opinions on this, or possible solutions.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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THE_ADDMAN

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definitely a good point
it will become more mainstream. fortunately, very few guys have the willpower to genuinely improve. if you look at forums, its really only a very small percent who "get it"
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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You could give this information to every man on the planet and I'd be surprised if a third would consistently use it. People will repeatedly do things which they are most comfortable and this information means taking a leap of faith for a lot of guys. Some guys will push past their comfort zone and will stick with it until they become successful, others will take a step and if they don't get an immediate payoff they'll get frustrated and revert back and then there will be those that will denounce it and won't even try. Why worry?
 

GatorBait

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Naw, I don't see everyone becoming a DJ at all.

AFCs and "nice guys" will still see this stuff and think, "No way that gets women, it's disrecpectful and goes against everything I've ever heard! Women don't like being made fun of!" And women will further bash this stuff and say it isn't the way to get in a woman's pants at all, but we all know that you "listen" to what a woman does, not what she says.

For every piece of DJ information that becomes mainstream, there are hundreds of TV shows, movies, and magazines that further perpetuate the AFC ways.
 

downlowpro

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if being a "don juan" were easy every guy would be one.

"pimpin aint easy!"

all this knowledge is only potential power...the power is in the doing.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Be masculine kid - just be masculine!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

tr0ublemaker

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I'm glad this Internet seduction "subculture" is pretty low-key to most people. God, if the majority of guys followed the material suggested on this site well, I'd get pissed..

I like looking at other guys knowing they don't have any DJ knowledge or an understanding of how to play the game..kind of ends a lot of competition..
 

Heyjose25points

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True that, I think it'd feel much greater getting women while being urself instead of constantly relying on routines...as an act. Juggler is great, especially his TV special "seduction school"
 

Mr. Unique

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Its like watching those bruce lee movies, It would be awesome to be able to kick any ones ass! but id rather eat a sandwich then learn martial arts.
 
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