"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Alright, so im gonna list what I believe to be the kind of crap women pour on you when you have been friended:

Saddness/Anger
- They call/text you to vent out about how they can't go out and have fun.
- Boss is being a real d!ckhead at work.
- Their pet died.
- Some dude they like doesnt like them back.
- Their ex-bf is seeing another girl and they're going emo over it.
- Their current bf is being an a-hole.
- When they start telling you about how they like another dude.
- Anything regarding another guy that they like or have feelings for.

Yea, I concluded that its mostly negative emotions and situations that doesn't involve yourself.

Im pretty sure I didn't contribute anything new here but feel free to add anything else I might have missed or if you question any of the above listed.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Rebound Material said:
Alright, so im gonna list what I believe to be the kind of crap women pour on you when you have been friended:

Saddness/Anger
- They call/text you to vent out about how they can't go out and have fun.
- Boss is being a real d!ckhead at work.
- Their pet died.
- Some dude they like doesnt like them back.
- Their ex-bf is seeing another girl and they're going emo over it.
- Their current bf is being an a-hole.
- When they start telling you about how they like another dude.
- Anything regarding another guy that they like or have feelings for.

Yea, I concluded that its mostly negative emotions and situations that doesn't involve yourself.

Im pretty sure I didn't contribute anything new here but feel free to add anything else I might have missed or if you question any of the above listed.
Dude what's the point of this? I'm sure alot of us have been told where to go by alot of hot girls.
 

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Rebound Material said:
Alright, so im gonna list what I believe to be the kind of crap women pour on you when you have been friended:

Saddness/Anger
- They call/text you to vent out about how they can't go out and have fun.
- Boss is being a real d!ckhead at work.
- Their pet died.
- Some dude they like doesnt like them back.
- Their ex-bf is seeing another girl and they're going emo over it.
- Their current bf is being an a-hole.
- When they start telling you about how they like another dude.
- Anything regarding another guy that they like or have feelings for.

Yea, I concluded that its mostly negative emotions and situations that doesn't involve yourself.

Im pretty sure I didn't contribute anything new here but feel free to add anything else I might have missed or if you question any of the above listed.
The best revenge is living well. I'll play little head games with girls that try to stick me in the "Friendszone"...For example, once I get put there, it's "Game on" with me. Gone is the attention they were getting while I tried unsuccessfully to court them. No more invitations. No more phone calls. They call me now, and when they do, they get told about someone new. Explicitly, almost to the TMI point. Then it's "I have to go, she's on the other line", 'click.....If I know where she hangs out, guaranteed I'll show up there with a new date. I'll introduce them. Very often, it doesnt matter, they could care less. But I do want them to know that their sexual attention, while wanted, was not needed.
 

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Dude what's the point of this? I'm sure alot of us have been told where to go by alot of hot girls.
Im just trying to clear that up because ive been thinking about it. Also, to see if anyone has any addition to the list.

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The best revenge is living well. I'll play little head games with girls that try to stick me in the "Friendszone"...For example, once I get put there, it's "Game on" with me. Gone is the attention they were getting while I tried unsuccessfully to court them. No more invitations. No more phone calls. They call me now, and when they do, they get told about someone new. Explicitly, almost to the TMI point. Then it's "I have to go, she's on the other line", 'click.....If I know where she hangs out, guaranteed I'll show up there with a new date. I'll introduce them. Very often, it doesnt matter, they could care less. But I do want them to know that their sexual attention, while wanted, was not needed.
I agree with you saying to live well after getting FZ'd...but it seems like the rest contradicts it. If your sole purposes to date a hotter chick is to simply show off to your old target, then it still shows that your thoughts still linger around the old one. Basically, all you'll be doing is using your new hotter target. If you're going to get the best revenge out of this, then simply LIVE WELL.
 

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Im just trying to clear that up because ive been thinking about it. Also, to see if anyone has any addition to the list.



I agree with you saying to live well after getting FZ'd...but it seems like the rest contradicts it. If your sole purposes to date a hotter chick is to simply show off to your old target, then it still shows that your thoughts still linger around the old one. Basically, all you'll be doing is using your new hotter target. If you're going to get the best revenge out of this, then simply LIVE WELL.
We can agree to disagree on this one. I am big on revenge. To the point of an Ahab like obsession.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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JackPrescott said:
Then it's "I have to go, she's on the other line", 'click.....If I know where she hangs out, guaranteed I'll show up there with a new date. I'll introduce them. Very often, it doesnt matter, they could care less. But I do want them to know that their sexual attention, while wanted, was not needed.
Ehhh, don't take this personally but...

I don't agree with explicitly telling her who you're dating. It's always best to let her casually figure it out. When you explicitly tell her over the phone, you're just putting up this vibe that "oh, you rejected me, look at these girls I'm dating, you're replacable" but not in the cool way. Whenever a girl tells me explicitly who she's dating, I think to myself, do I honestly give a fvck? Hell no. It puts up the vibe that she's approval-seeking and spiteful about it.

So don't do it. If she friend zones you, take it with some dignity for goodness sake. You're not in High School anymore (right?)
 

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Ehhh, don't take this personally but...

I don't agree with explicitly telling her who you're dating. It's always best to let her casually figure it out. When you explicitly tell her over the phone, you're just putting up this vibe that "oh, you rejected me, look at these girls I'm dating, you're replacable" but not in the cool way. Whenever a girl tells me explicitly who she's dating, I think to myself, do I honestly give a fvck? Hell no. It puts up the vibe that she's approval-seeking and spiteful about it.

So don't do it. If she friend zones you, take it with some dignity for goodness sake. You're not in High School anymore (right?)
I'm very into "not in the cool way" It is my way of dignity. No, I am not, but I fight fire with fire.
 

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I'm very into "not in the cool way" It is my way of dignity. No, I am not, but I fight fire with fire.
I dont know if you're aware, but by them rejecting you, it probably is your fault. Somewhere along the lines you must have lost attraction and their interest overall. Don't take it too personally(easier said then done), and think of rejection as feedback. Look back at your game strategy with her and pinpoint where you think you might have fcuked up. Don't be biased and get off your ego for a second and really critique your game. Think about it. If you were so great of a guy then why did she friendzone you? Also, don't fight fire with fire and go for a new target for the right reasonsa and not just to spite your former.
 

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I dont know if you're aware, but by them rejecting you, it probably is your fault. Somewhere along the lines you must have lost attraction and their interest overall. Don't take it too personally(easier said then done), and think of rejection as feedback. Look back at your game strategy with her and pinpoint where you think you might have fcuked up. Don't be biased and get off your ego for a second and really critique your game. Think about it. If you were so great of a guy then why did she friendzone you? Also, don't fight fire with fire and go for a new target for the right reasonsa and not just to spite your former.
Disagreed, 110%. Somewhere along the lines, they werent interested in the first place, just playing typical female BS dating games, that no one here truly understands. I do take it personally, and I play to win, period. I dont believe I fvcked up at any given point. If they had wanted me, there was nothing in this planet that would have prevented our mating. Women friendszone men, because they crave attention, without any benefits. Attention W*hores. Women are flakes. And yes, I fight fire with fire, Revenge is always the best option.
 

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Rebound Material said:
Alright, so im gonna list what I believe to be the kind of crap women pour on you when you have been friended:

Saddness/Anger
- They call/text you to vent out about how they can't go out and have fun.
- Boss is being a real d!ckhead at work.
- Their pet died.
- Some dude they like doesnt like them back.
- Their ex-bf is seeing another girl and they're going emo over it.
- Their current bf is being an a-hole.
- When they start telling you about how they like another dude.
- Anything regarding another guy that they like or have feelings for.

Yea, I concluded that its mostly negative emotions and situations that doesn't involve yourself.

Im pretty sure I didn't contribute anything new here but feel free to add anything else I might have missed or if you question any of the above listed.
Yeah, I do the same thing to girls that I have friended as well. We keep it pretty damn even.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yeah, I do the same thing to girls that I have friended as well. We keep it pretty damn even.

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I have no use for women who want to tell me their man problems, as long as they want to do it while we are naked and in the sack.
 

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I have no use for women who want to tell me their man problems, as long as they want to do it while we are naked and in the sack.
its a pretty sad way to look at people.

I chill out with girls and guys. I find the girls to be a lot more fun because I can use a better joking style with them.

If I want to go do something really crazy, then I will go with guys to go do have that type of fun.

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its a pretty sad way to look at people.

I chill out with girls and guys. I find the girls to be a lot more fun because I can use a better joking style with them.

If I want to go do something really crazy, then I will go with guys to go do have that type of fun.

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I am the opposite of you. In my mind, women are potential mating material, or are piles of flesh. Married women, women in relationships, rude women, and ESPECIALLY disinterested women, such as flakes and attention wh*ores, or just those women who dont "see me like that" are meaningless in this existence to me.

I have tried the "just friends" bullshi*t two times in my life, and discovered that both times, regardless of how tight we were, and both of these women were easily tighter with me than my real flesh and blood sister, once they got sexual with a male, I was out of the picture, and thats USUALLY how it goes, 99% of the time.

I have my good friends who I like to go to, to a private club, and smoke and drink, and bulls*hit with. But on the other hand, I have no real female friends who I hang out with, only vague acquaintences.

Then I also hang out at normal clubs, basically "on the prowl"
 

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The easiest way to not be an emotiona tampon is to make yourself unavailable. Girls use to call me all the time with their lame problems about how their boyfriends weren't treating them right and how they wish he was more like me blah blah blah. After a while I just stopped picking up the phone and focusing more on work. They all give up pretty quick when you start living for yourself, they cut out quick. People are self centered by nature and girls are no exception. Once you start doing thing on your own accords, the leeches dissapear quickly.
 

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JackPrescott said:
I am the opposite of you. In my mind, women are potential mating material, or are piles of flesh. Married women, women in relationships, rude women, and ESPECIALLY disinterested women, such as flakes and attention wh*ores, or just those women who dont "see me like that" are meaningless in this existence to me.

I have tried the "just friends" bullshi*t two times in my life, and discovered that both times, regardless of how tight we were, and both of these women were easily tighter with me than my real flesh and blood sister, once they got sexual with a male, I was out of the picture, and thats USUALLY how it goes, 99% of the time.

I have my good friends who I like to go to, to a private club, and smoke and drink, and bulls*hit with. But on the other hand, I have no real female friends who I hang out with, only vague acquaintences.

Then I also hang out at normal clubs, basically "on the prowl"
yeah, but I have also seen guys do the same exact thing. It is human nature for this to happen, they want to be your friends until they find something new. I just accept it and move on.

I even catch myself spending too much time with my own significant other. I'm sure that almost every person with a significant other has spent a lot of time with them and let go of bad relationships and spent less time with their friends.

The difference between myself and you is that I realize that it is human nature and let it go. I still manage to talk them into bringing a long their significant other to hang out with. We still chill out all the time.

I would NEVER look at people like that because I have a different mindset. Whenever I want to date a girlfriend, I always hang out with her in a neutral place to get a feel for her. It lets me look at her to see if she is worth dating. Places that I can do this is coffee houses or something of the like.

I may not get lots of girls to date, but the onese that I do get are great quality to me.

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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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yeah, but I have also seen guys do the same exact thing. It is human nature for this to happen, they want to be your friends until they find something new. I just accept it and move on.

I even catch myself spending too much time with my own significant other. I'm sure that almost every person with a significant other has spent a lot of time with them and let go of bad relationships and spent less time with their friends.

The difference between myself and you is that I realize that it is human nature and let it go. I still manage to talk them into bringing a long their significant other to hang out with. We still chill out all the time.

I would NEVER look at people like that because I have a different mindset. Whenever I want to date a girlfriend, I always hang out with her in a neutral place to get a feel for her. It lets me look at her to see if she is worth dating. Places that I can do this is coffee houses or something of the like.

I may not get lots of girls to date, but the onese that I do get are great quality to me.

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So let me get this straight. After your strange ass has been "friendszoned" you will not only still hang out with them, but hang out with them and the guy having anal sex with them? Wow. You might as well bring that guy his beers and light his cigarettes for him. Make sure his shoes are polished as well, keep a buffing rag with you incase they get scruffed while she is on the dance floor making out with him while you sit at the table alone like Marty McFly's dad at the "Magic under the Sea" dance.
 

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So let me get this straight. After your strange ass has been "friendszoned" you will not only still hang out with them, but hang out with them and the guy having anal sex with them? Wow. You might as well bring that guy his beers and light his cigarettes for him. Make sure his shoes are polished as well, keep a buffing rag with you incase they get scruffed while she is on the dance floor making out with him while you sit at the table alone like Marty McFly's dad at the "Magic under the Sea" dance.
You are misunderstanding me JackPrescott. Your assuming that I was friendszoned while still wanting to screw those girls that I became friendsed with. But I never become friends with girls unless I have no sexual attraction at all and it is me who is friendsing them (most of the girls that I do have friendsed anyways still would go out with me if they got a chance). I have plenty of girls like that. I am just not attracted to them because of a personality fluke or something. I can't really do much with different right now since I am in a LTR at the moment as well.

I chill out with them and they chill out with me.

I am saying that I understand why they do such things and to just enjoy the time that you do have with people.

and btw if i remember correctly, the two times that I did do this. The first time, I was out in the hallway of the club making out with some chick that I met randomly that night. The second time was out on a movie with my best friend off to Afghanistan with his good friend and I was joking around with the one guys target girl and she ended up trying to go after me more than the other guy.

Please don't ASSUME anything like that, I just have a different idea about people in general than you do. Which is fine, but I let you know that I have a different mindset then yourself.

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So let me get this straight. After your strange ass has been "friendszoned" you will not only still hang out with them, but hang out with them and the guy having anal sex with them? Wow. You might as well bring that guy his beers and light his cigarettes for him. Make sure his shoes are polished as well, keep a buffing rag with you incase they get scruffed while she is on the dance floor making out with him while you sit at the table alone like Marty McFly's dad at the "Magic under the Sea" dance.
Jack, I see your point about the strange act of still hanging around someone who friended YOU. In fact your thoughts are not that far different from my own. The only thing I disagree with is the immaturity you show them after the fact you got friended. Im not saying go and hang around that person and give them the kind of attention that you used to when you were gaming them. Just don't be so available to them. Don't initiate a call or text to them(unless absolutely necessary) let them call you. If you miss their call, don't call back right away. If they still try to act all flirty with you don't flirt back but then again, don't snub them. If they invite you to hang out turn it down(with good reason of course "I gotta go finish a project", "sorry, im in the middle of fixing my car"). If you do decide to accept an invitation and they suggest an idea don't play under their terms and suggest your own. This is a game afterall, so just lose like a good sport.
 

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Jack, I see your point about the strange act of still hanging around someone who friended YOU. In fact your thoughts are not that far different from my own. The only thing I disagree with is the immaturity you show them after the fact you got friended. Im not saying go and hang around that person and give them the kind of attention that you used to when you were gaming them. Just don't be so available to them. Don't initiate a call or text to them(unless absolutely necessary) let them call you. If you miss their call, don't call back right away. If they still try to act all flirty with you don't flirt back but then again, don't snub them. If they invite you to hang out turn it down(with good reason of course "I gotta go finish a project", "sorry, im in the middle of fixing my car"). If you do decide to accept an invitation and they suggest an idea don't play under their terms and suggest your own. This is a game afterall, so just lose like a good sport.
I REFUSE any and all invitations from a woman if she wants me to hang with her and her man. What the FUKK is the point? If she is still with him, and wants to hang with me, while he stays his ass home, I guess I could live with that, as long as it's "seperate checks"....if she is going home to sleep with him, I aint paying for $hit. If she wants to cheat on him, using me, I am certainly down for that. But other than that, I have very little use for a woman as "just friends"...I really dont play that, for the most part. It is a waste of my time.

And as far as losing? No, I am sorry, but my mindset is not built to accept losing. I dont enjoy losing, and all it does is fuel my direct interest in revenge.
 

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And as far as losing? No, I am sorry, but my mindset is not built to accept losing. I dont enjoy losing, and all it does is fuel my direct interest in revenge.
:nervous: ok...

Gaming is supposed to be fun. It doesn't matter if you win or lose a girl. It is just supposed to be fun. if I have to work my ass off to get a girl, it is not worth it to me.

And if I do get friendszoned, then so what? They usually chill with me and introduce me to their female friends that they have and I sleep with one or two of them. Nothing wrong with that.

I am not saying that your mindset or my mindset is correct or incorrect, it is just a different style that works for different people. Personally, I wouldn't use it.

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

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