SmooveMooves
Master Don Juan
This thread is a pity party. All I see is people describing how easy attractive men have it. Such insight. Boohoo.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
The dudes that make "gamers" sick to their stomach with insecurity.
- Thread starter 9Volt
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Never said I don't get chicks nor need to use "game" to get them. To "gamers" it's like they live in a fantasy world where the top males can't possibly be getting chicks without game let alone have chicks and or their friends approach them or they must be some shy hiding in the corner dude that has never talked with chicks before because he's not using "game".
These dudes talk that "red pill" shyt. they'd be "red pilled" something seriously awful. Its like some dowdy busted chick or some feminist loon talking about how hot chicks must not be able to talk to dudes because they don't use "game" like them and dudes really "like them more" than the hot chicks. Who the hell gets "gamed" by a chick they find unattractive to decide she's really "attractive" like a hot chick unless the dude is a h0rny as f thirst bucket in a severe dry spell??
zekko
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We just talking, Smoove. Nobody's crying. Game has its place, but the most important thing in dating is SMV. IMO.
The PUAs who want to say that " game trumps all" have ironically set up their own matrix. If you challenge it, you are met with anger.
If the goal of PUAs is to mimic the behavior of naturals (those with high SMV), it's only logical to conclude that the genuine article beats out the imitation.
JohnChops
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Interesting. I always wanted to throw up some shirtless pics but always felt wrong doing it.I literally only have a picture of my torso on OLD and tinder and women still talk to me like I am a normal human being with a face. Personality and character don't matter in the face actual sexual value.
And yes, it feels great to objectified. Guys are different. We only get ego boosts from sex. We don't feel any better if we had to open our mouths and have women take us seriously. The point is to raise your SMV value through the roof so you don't have to say much, not learn 10000 lines and techniques.
Old self body conscious shining thru