"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The Dreaded "Urkel Game" (Going "Urkel")

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Steve Urkel, from Family Matters, was a total dweeb who pursued Larua forever. Yet he was a great PUA. Why?

Simple: HE WAS IMPERVIOUS TO REJECTION. Women can't stand this, because their normal weapon doesn't work.

Going Urkel means not caring if she wants you or not, or if she rejects you or not, but declaring undying love for her, regardless of the outcome, with no level of shame or rejection deterring you.

The "Urkel Effect" is when she realizes how much you love her, becomes aware of how much other guys SHOULD love her, which causes her to test the other guys perpetually, and, of course, they always fail, since they don't relaly love her the way "Urkel" does.

With Urkel game, you have no shame, can put her on a pedestal (big ego boost, and she'll seek you out when she needs one), plus after a while, she might just decide to finally give you a chance. It's best if you run this game without letting your emotions get the best of you, since you're likely to be rejected and to make a fool out of yourself.

The other benefit is that OTHER chicfks will wish you loved them the way you love "her," and will generally get sick of hearing about how superior "she" is (built-in neg). Indeed, on Family Matters, Urkel attracted Laura's cousin, who thought he was just PERFECT.

The only problem is that Urkel had writers who got Lauara for him, but the game is FUN as hell to run. It's my current tactic with General Hospital star Lexi Ainsworth, to the point where I bought a domain declaring my undying love for her (which is sorta genuine; she's like a celebrity crush).
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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TheMale

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i don't get how you're not seeing like a nice guy or worse a needy ????
 

Stagger Lee

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But that was a TV show. In real life two scenarios play out. If she likes you as a person and sees you as harmless, then Urkel is in the friendzone and is never ever getting out of it. If you're not perceived by her as a harmless friend and/or she doesn't like your personality, persistence is "scary" and "stalking".

Either way it is a position that no man should ever be in. You are either her perpetual orbiter inflating her ego, or you are her "stalker" that she gets to brag about and get sympathy and attention playing the victim. Generally if women aren't attracted to a man, they have an almost hatred for him unless you are in the friendzone. But rarely is a female a real friend and you are still being used and abused in the friendzone.

Best thing you can do is ignore and avoid your oneitis and let her see you showing attention to other females.
 

Domo_Arigatoo

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Uh...
I disagree with this method completely, i'd never put myself in a situation where i'm treating a girl like a goddess in hopes that she might give me the time of day, i don't have time for that kind of stuff and plus it's counter-productive.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Jeffst1980

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This is a surefire way NOT to get the girl. The only way she'll give a guy like this a "chance" is if he hangs around long after her sexual marketability drops. Then, she'll lament how "wrong" she was to sleep with all those alphas that actually knew how to turn her on.
 

st_99

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BettorOffSingle said:
Steve Urkel, from Family Matters, was a total dweeb who pursued Larua forever. Yet he was a great PUA. Why?

Simple: HE WAS IMPERVIOUS TO REJECTION. Women can't stand this, because their normal weapon doesn't work.

Going Urkel means not caring if she wants you or not, or if she rejects you or not, but declaring undying love for her, regardless of the outcome, with no level of shame or rejection deterring you.

The "Urkel Effect" is when she realizes how much you love her, becomes aware of how much other guys SHOULD love her, which causes her to test the other guys perpetually, and, of course, they always fail, since they don't relaly love her the way "Urkel" does.

With Urkel game, you have no shame, can put her on a pedestal (big ego boost, and she'll seek you out when she needs one), plus after a while, she might just decide to finally give you a chance. It's best if you run this game without letting your emotions get the best of you, since you're likely to be rejected and to make a fool out of yourself.

The other benefit is that OTHER chicfks will wish you loved them the way you love "her," and will generally get sick of hearing about how superior "she" is (built-in neg). Indeed, on Family Matters, Urkel attracted Laura's cousin, who thought he was just PERFECT.

The only problem is that Urkel had writers who got Lauara for him, but the game is FUN as hell to run. It's my current tactic with General Hospital star Lexi Ainsworth, to the point where I bought a domain declaring my undying love for her (which is sorta genuine; she's like a celebrity crush).
This strategy is totally flawed for a bunch of reasons.

Mainly, anytime you declare your undying love for a girl that you aren't even dating you are lying. It shows you are weak, cowardly, low value and roll over like a dog. Thats a bad start and an instant entry to FZ status.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
But that was a TV show. In real life two scenarios play out. If she likes you as a person and sees you as harmless, then Urkel is in the friendzone and is never ever getting out of it. If you're not perceived by her as a harmless friend and/or she doesn't like your personality, persistence is "scary" and "stalking".

Either way it is a position that no man should ever be in. You are either her perpetual orbiter inflating her ego, or you are her "stalker" that she gets to brag about and get sympathy and attention playing the victim. Generally if women aren't attracted to a man, they have an almost hatred for him unless you are in the friendzone. But rarely is a female a real friend and you are still being used and abused in the friendzone.

Best thing you can do is ignore and avoid your oneitis and let her see you showing attention to other females.
it's practically always like this and you end up being the creep without doing anything creepy. Great peice of advice. Let's sticky this somewhere for everyone.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
But that was a TV show. In real life two scenarios play out. If she likes you as a person and sees you as harmless, then Urkel is in the friendzone and is never ever getting out of it. If you're not perceived by her as a harmless friend and/or she doesn't like your personality, persistence is "scary" and "stalking".

Either way it is a position that no man should ever be in. You are either her perpetual orbiter inflating her ego, or you are her "stalker" that she gets to brag about and get sympathy and attention playing the victim. Generally if women aren't attracted to a man, they have an almost hatred for him unless you are in the friendzone. But rarely is a female a real friend and you are still being used and abused in the friendzone.

Best thing you can do is ignore and avoid your oneitis and let her see you showing attention to other females.
exactly.
 
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