"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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the dj bible isn't very hands on

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and neither is anything else on this site for that matter. that's my main problem. everything is theory and attitude but when it comes down to getting dirty a lot of situations i'm just at a creative loss for how to make the move to make things happen.

i know david d and other "gurus" say it's important to observe other guys in action but i don't have the opportunity to do that. it's like i'm doing biology without the frog chopping part. y'know what i'm saying?

for example, here's my situation: where i work there's a couple of older women. i estimate a few years older than me. i'm a youngin, 20. based on their behavior i strongly suspect they've got a thing for me but we've never gotten to know each other. i see guys on here talking about banging older chicks but honestly, i have no bleeding idea how to go about doing it. how do i test the waters per say..? i want to let my intentions be known and get them some place private and naked! what's my game plan?

shove your hands up my ass. i'm a ventriloquist!
or at least maybe some of you can share some detailed examples that could help me.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Let's make it easy for everyone. You point out attractive women and point them out to us. You can then go home and we'll sarge them.
 

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i'd be glad to if you'd tape the encounter and upload the video to youtube for my education.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Nah, that's not part of the deal. You point them out and we'll pick them up, that's it. Why complicate things by recreating what's already in the bible?
 

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Sounds like you are someone that justs wants the results without putting in the effort to learn them yourself.

You can't just expect us to always give you the right way to go about every situation you get into, you read the theory, and test them out yourself.

I am in a similar situation, i need to figure out how to game older women, but i'm mostly doing this out of field practice.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The problem is, the theory sucks.

The other problem is that the information given on this site isnt really practical, often, its applicable only to isolated and controlled conditions.

Another problem is the informaiton given is ambiguous and doesnt tell the reader sh*t.

The DJ Bible is DJ sh*t
 

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I agree with this toic totally. But this is precisely why The Game is so fun. Its about testing what works for you, and applyig them at the right time. When i find a sure way to open any set, i'll post a word for word sarge for anyone that's stuck during a close. For now, lets just go out there and try things like C&F, blah blah blah.
 

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While I don't think I'll be shoving my hand up anyones @ss, try these 4 easy steps to success! :up:

1. Make genuine and interesting CONVO with target.

2. ISOLATE when it seems natural.

3. Use kino, suaveness etc. to ESCALATE the energy.

4. Go in for the KILL.
 

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lolz...

Rexman is right!

even if she's older than you,she's still a woman. I dont know but my girlfriend is 6years older than me...im 18 and she's 24.
 

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KINO is hands on :)
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Those are some good statements. Another point to make is you have to get over the fear of failure to be sucessful. When you keep trying, you learn what works for you and what doesn't. This is the same for anything that deals with human behavior.

A lot of the posts in this forum are from guys saying the articles and advice don't work because they didn't become Hugh Hefner overnight. Failure and rejection is part of the process. Even though I get girls now, I don't get every one that I want. I still get rejected 50%-60% of the time. What some of the guys have to realize is that unless you are Brad Pitt, Will Smith or whoever, rejection is inevitable.
 
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