"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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the dj bible isn't very hands on

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and neither is anything else on this site for that matter. that's my main problem. everything is theory and attitude but when it comes down to getting dirty a lot of situations i'm just at a creative loss for how to make the move to make things happen.

i know david d and other "gurus" say it's important to observe other guys in action but i don't have the opportunity to do that. it's like i'm doing biology without the frog chopping part. y'know what i'm saying?

for example, here's my situation: where i work there's a couple of older women. i estimate a few years older than me. i'm a youngin, 20. based on their behavior i strongly suspect they've got a thing for me but we've never gotten to know each other. i see guys on here talking about banging older chicks but honestly, i have no bleeding idea how to go about doing it. how do i test the waters per say..? i want to let my intentions be known and get them some place private and naked! what's my game plan?

shove your hands up my ass. i'm a ventriloquist!
or at least maybe some of you can share some detailed examples that could help me.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Let's make it easy for everyone. You point out attractive women and point them out to us. You can then go home and we'll sarge them.
 

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i'd be glad to if you'd tape the encounter and upload the video to youtube for my education.
 

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Nah, that's not part of the deal. You point them out and we'll pick them up, that's it. Why complicate things by recreating what's already in the bible?
 

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Sounds like you are someone that justs wants the results without putting in the effort to learn them yourself.

You can't just expect us to always give you the right way to go about every situation you get into, you read the theory, and test them out yourself.

I am in a similar situation, i need to figure out how to game older women, but i'm mostly doing this out of field practice.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The problem is, the theory sucks.

The other problem is that the information given on this site isnt really practical, often, its applicable only to isolated and controlled conditions.

Another problem is the informaiton given is ambiguous and doesnt tell the reader sh*t.

The DJ Bible is DJ sh*t
 

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I agree with this toic totally. But this is precisely why The Game is so fun. Its about testing what works for you, and applyig them at the right time. When i find a sure way to open any set, i'll post a word for word sarge for anyone that's stuck during a close. For now, lets just go out there and try things like C&F, blah blah blah.
 

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While I don't think I'll be shoving my hand up anyones @ss, try these 4 easy steps to success! :up:

1. Make genuine and interesting CONVO with target.

2. ISOLATE when it seems natural.

3. Use kino, suaveness etc. to ESCALATE the energy.

4. Go in for the KILL.
 

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lolz...

Rexman is right!

even if she's older than you,she's still a woman. I dont know but my girlfriend is 6years older than me...im 18 and she's 24.
 

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KINO is hands on :)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Those are some good statements. Another point to make is you have to get over the fear of failure to be sucessful. When you keep trying, you learn what works for you and what doesn't. This is the same for anything that deals with human behavior.

A lot of the posts in this forum are from guys saying the articles and advice don't work because they didn't become Hugh Hefner overnight. Failure and rejection is part of the process. Even though I get girls now, I don't get every one that I want. I still get rejected 50%-60% of the time. What some of the guys have to realize is that unless you are Brad Pitt, Will Smith or whoever, rejection is inevitable.
 
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