"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The DJ Bible doesn't work for me

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Blue Phoenix

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You need awareness to get what´s behind these principles.
 

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Read throught the tips found outside of the forums on the main page. That's where I started a long time ago and I applied it in school and public in general. That is how you can gain this awareness that BP speaks of.
 

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If reading about it wont help you, I suggest you just go out and talk to some girls until you get good at it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I agree

I used to read and read...it didn't make sense(at least for me doesn't make sense at first). Your thinking skills will improve the more you converse.


Once you have done a lot of approaching...then you can go back to the bible. Try out new things experiment - see what works and what doesn't.
 

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The problem I'm having is with cold approaches. It's just getting negatively reinforced.

Like I suck at talking to people, so I go try to talk to a stranger, have a bad interaction, and it's negatively reinforced. And since I have more negatives than positives, I'm left with an overall mental beat down. Even when I do have a positive interaction I can't help but think it's a fluke, with all the other negative ones I have.
 

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The Bible is just a bare bones dating-and-approach protocol with some philosophy thrown in.

More likely than it "not working for you" is you just simply not working, period. Your head is probably in the wrong space. Probably have some self-limiting beliefs and fears stored up, these fears being triggered in social interactions is what kills the fun.

You're not in state enough, if the Bible stuff doesnt work. If you're not in state, nothing really works very well. Conversely, if you're REALLY in state, you can throw away the rulebook and just go for it and have success (others have said). So the question is, why are you not in state?

I would conclude that its inner game thats holding you back.
 

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It´s not about women, it´s all about you.

Do you think you need a GF to feel happy?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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You're obviously terrified of cold approaches and a few mess ups are enough to destroy you. Thats a fragile state your in, and I know exactly what thats like.

There are two ways advocated on this board to remedy this:
1) Do it till you become numb - "Fake it till you make it".
2) Follow the path of self development until you are above feeling bad about rejection, etc.

Im sure youll be able to determine, given time, which path is right for you AND the resources you need to progress down it.
 

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I get a severe case of cramps before I goto a mall or anywhere to cold approach, I have diarrhea afterwards.
 

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That´s a consequence of your fears. I´ve gotta work that out first!
 

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Look

First start approaching people you know.

Then at school approach an older person. Like a professor or teacher, just say for the heck of it something like..."What do you teach?". "I've seen you around."

These things should be easy.

Slowly work into it forget about approaching girls at first.

Once comfortable move a step forward.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Shyyhs said:
I get a severe case of cramps before I goto a mall or anywhere to cold approach, I have diarrhea afterwards.
When I was a freshman-sophomore in high school, I would feel the exact same before and after track meets. Eventually, I got over it and went on to run in the state title meet as a senior.

The point is, it's natural to feel anxious and get those kinds of feelings with something that makes you uncomfortable until you do that activity enough to not feel nervous anymore. You can sit around and read the DJ Bible all you want, but in order to internalize what you're reading, you have to get out in the field and force yourself out of your comfort zone. Eventually, your nausea will go away if you keep approaching and practicing. It works that way for anything that makes you nervous.
 

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You can sit around and read the DJ Bible all you want
It's not that I'm sitting around reading it, saying "it's not working". I'm going out approaching people(male and female) and I'm ending up having negative interactions over and over and over again. And it's getting to me.
 

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Shyyhs said:
The problem I'm having is with cold approaches. It's just getting negatively reinforced.

Like I suck at talking to people, so I go try to talk to a stranger, have a bad interaction, and it's negatively reinforced. And since I have more negatives than positives, I'm left with an overall mental beat down. Even when I do have a positive interaction I can't help but think it's a fluke, with all the other negative ones I have.

Imagine yourself talking to hot chicks and being really smooth. Think of how they'll laugh as you make jokes or how they'll playfully hit you. This will give you tons of confidence and reassurance.

Also, get a good night's sleep. I always find myself in a much better mood after 8 hours of sleep.
 

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you maybe have to solve some "internal issues" before....
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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