"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The difference between call me and text me(disscussion)

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Texting should only be used to for short, sweet things. Like setting up meeting in person, or confirming plans.

Otherwise, texting is mostly(there are exceptions) for those that don't have the balls to call.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Texting needs to be short and sweet, not all-day conversations.
Used to get answers quickly, or set up a time and place to meet in person.

Otherwise, texting is mostly (there are exceptions) for those that don't have the balls to call.
 

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Didn't read the entire thread, but this is my take on it. Any girl who is average to above average in looks is going to have a plethora of guys that are interested in her. If I had to guess, like 90% of them will only "game" her through texting, which isn't necessarily bad, but I will explain why calling can sometimes be better.

For one, it pulls you away from the pack. What better way to stand out by having the confidence to call her and have a real conversation (And I mean the term loosely, I know actual real in-life interaction is better, but specifically in terms of texting vs calling). If you call later at night too, you get the added bonus of her probably thinking about you when she goes to bed.

It's just that a lot of guys don't know *how* to talk on the phone. For one, they think longer conversations are better. In fact, it's better to end a conversation early if you reach a high point, rather than dragging it out and ending it after it gets boring. The minute you two actually start to click and have a fun conversation is when you make an excuse to get off the phone. It'll imprint her with a better impression of you, and it'll leave her wanting more.

Are there uses to texting? Definitely. But don't make it your crutch.
 

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amen to that firefighterMD
 

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Conquer said:
First of all thanks for your response. You brought attention to the potential elephant in the room. Do women sometimes use texting just so they can talk to a lot of guys at once? if so why compete for a women? Why let her call the shots like that? Once or twice ive felt like what you just said fertileturtle. However this does not discredit or mean i disagree with what the previous posts said. It all depends on the girl.
I'm not saying dont' do it. I was just using an example of why I didn't want to in one instance. It has it's advantages, but I'm a little old fashioned as far as the phone goes, and I hate talking on the phone long and I especially hate replying to all those damned text messages, but that's just me.

Alot of meaning can be lost as far as voice inflection and such, but some kids have it down to science. I was talking with this 16 y/o chick today about all the new different abbreviations and such that people use and how people spell words. She filled me in on a lot of stuff I didn't know. FAF, didn't know that one for example.

Most of the time, I would rather just say what's what and get it over with.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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FirefighterMD said:
For one, it pulls you away from the pack. What better way to stand out by...
You always should be trying to find that right angle that puts you apart. So key to beating the competition.
 

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well said Don Gordon, nice breaking down of the numbers
 

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Well guys thanks for all the feedback it was one hell of a discussion
 
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