"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The difference between call me and text me(disscussion)

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I know as men we shouldn't waste time figuring out how women think and we should just focus on having fun. However, my curiosity has driven me to wonder why some women say call me and some say text me. For example, you get a girls number and she happily tells you, however she says "text me" after telling you her number. Sometimes women say call me. From you guys' experience, what would you say drives women to say text me, or call and what each means. Just wondering, thanks
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Texting is way less intrusive and chicks prefer it more in my oppinion. I'm a huge texter I text like 7000 messages a month lol. I text tons of chicks I can hold convos all day long with like three chicks at a time haha. I also prefer it bc you can violate all the rules and get away with it.

Austin
 

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Response to Austin(GrimPhallic)

I see where your coming from. I agree to a certain point, texting can be done just about anytime of the day and actual calling seems to be too personal right of the bat. However, I feel that long texting convos can sometimes hurt your chances, some people would argue texting should be kept casual and only used as an aid for a bigger meet. But I could see texting working as catalyst to an eventual call. Texting can be a double edged sword and i suppose women use it to test you out first. Thanks for your input
 

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No problem. I can tell you that it is def a double edged sword. I have had good and bad results from it. But because of how much I do it, I have mastered it lol. I have said before that I even use "give me your # and I'll text you sometime" as a # grab and it works 100% of the time for me.

Austin
 

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GrimPhallic said:
Texting is way less intrusive and chicks prefer it more in my oppinion. I'm a huge texter I text like 7000 messages a month lol. I text tons of chicks I can hold convos all day long with like three chicks at a time haha. I also prefer it bc you can violate all the rules and get away with it.

Austin
Im down with texting but...7000 messages is a little much IMO.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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TEXTING IS THE 2009 VERSION OF CALL ME...........there are some key differences but you are OVE-THINKING the communication portion of this.

U got her info..........who cares if she says call or text..............yes I mentioned there are some key differences............blah blah blah.

Bottom line........call text, message in a bottle, get her thinking of you, responding to you, keep up the banter and then MAKE THAT DATE.

when U start to CSI every little thing about chics you begin to OVER-ANALYZE and ACTUALLY DECREASE your odds of success. RE-DIRECT YOUR MUCH NEEDED ATTENTION ON seducing the chic LIVE & IN PERSON.
 

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You summed it up well with text me being the 2009 version of call me. Besides that you re-instated what i already figured, bottom line you just have to get in her head/mind and interact and take it from there.

I just wanted to know about other peoples experiences with texting. My personal record is 6,000 texts in one month.

Thanks for your input COD
 

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Texting is easier in some ways than calling especially if you don't want people to hear what you are saying like if you are at work or have people around and you don't want to them to hear your business.

I just told a girl yesterday I won't text her, because it's girly. I said that becase she texts all the other dudes at work she likes, but I'm not into texting so much. I'll just tell her when and how I want to meet up with her and go from there.
 

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First of all thanks for your response. You brought attention to the potential elephant in the room. Do women sometimes use texting just so they can talk to a lot of guys at once? if so why compete for a women? Why let her call the shots like that? Once or twice ive felt like what you just said fertileturtle. However this does not discredit or mean i disagree with what the previous posts said. It all depends on the girl.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Conquer said:
Do women sometimes use texting just so they can talk to a lot of guys at once?
Sometimes?! Its more like the norm now a days. Between texting and facebook, women are now able to get immediate self gratification by getting attention none stop.

Conquer said:
if so why compete for a women? Why let her call the shots like that?
That's why you got to keep the texting much like conversations on the phone to a minimum. Keep those tools for a hookup (short and sweet) instead of doing what women do and using these tools for attention. The more you are available to text and talk the less value you hold in their eyes.
 

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Damn that was a good response. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks texting and online social networks are tools of gratification for women. It's almost like if we are letting them run things now. Whenever i text a girl i always try to keep it short, by saying i gotta go or some bull****. Like I learned on here, the attention we can give is our currency. Gotta spend it wisely. Good post.
 

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the way I think about it, i dunno if its right, is that I should text them a little but not too much... like start up a convo, let it go a little bit, then end it on your terms.... this is just to keep me in her mind, if I want a date I definitely like to call
 

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GrimPhallic said:
No problem. I can tell you that it is def a double edged sword. I have had good and bad results from it. But because of how much I do it, I have mastered it lol. I have said before that I even use "give me your # and I'll text you sometime" as a # grab and it works 100% of the time for me.

Austin
Me too, made an art out of it.
 

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Personally not a big fan of texting...i feel that it is very impersonal and reflects a low to moderate IL from the girl. If you were her ideal dream man she would answer on the first ring...

However, i do get more response from girls texting than i do with traditional phone calls, so I have more opportunity to run game overall.

I guess women, especially younger ones, feel more comfortable texting...so whatever...i'll get a playful and confident vibe going by inducing funny visualizations from my messages and hopefully open her up to a phone call or meet.

Like others said, it doesnt always work. She could be only texting you b/c she's not interested and doesnt want to blow you off over the phone.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I think where you live plays a huge role here as well. I live in Columbus, OH, its a pretty big city and is very up to date on technology and what not. Everyone including their parents text, true story. And I agree with:

jogel13 said:
the way I think about it, i dunno if its right, is that I should text them a little but not too much... like start up a convo, let it go a little bit, then end it on your terms.... this is just to keep me in her mind, if I want a date I definitely like to call
Works very well. Im a funny guy so I send funny ****, get em laughing, then leave em hanging on their last reply. Always make sure she is the last one to reply. The best is when you get naked pics from em. My record in one month is just two but I can usually get em to do this. This is a true art haha.

Austin
 

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Thanks for all the responses
 

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I agree with fairshake. We have moved from being able to communicate intimately to simply wanting to get as much attention as possible, hence twitter.
 

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There's no difference. If she wants you to talk to her, it doesn't matter whether it's textual or vocal.

Don't overt think the matter. If she wants action (interaction in this context), she's interested.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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