The dating market is just getting worse every year

[FlexpertHamilton]

If any of you know me, you know I rarely complain about women or the state of the world and I don't concern myself with things outside of my control, like politics, social issues, gossip, whatever. But I can no longer ignore it or deny it any more, things are just getting worse every passing year. Its noticeably worse now than it was 3 years ago and 3 years ago it was noticeably worse than it was in 2020.

Hoeflation, entitlement, delusion, narcissism, feminism, and general man-hating from women are all continuing to ramp up and I don't see any signs of it stopping.

It seems to me like before long the US is going be in a similar place to South Korea with the 4B movement, with extremely radicalized political opposition between the two genders and a rapidly declining birthrate.

Do you think pendelum going to swing the other way? Or should we just sit back and enjoy the decline and ****show that is coming?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Do you think pendelum going to swing the other way?

Historically, pendulums swing back and forth all the time. But generally they only swing in one direction during any particular generation.

Or should we just sit back and enjoy the decline and ****show that is coming?

That would be my guess. Stop expecting it to get any better and enjoy the chaos any way you can.

Life can be surprisingly enjoyable once you accept the way things are.

 

[The Duke]

We need to get people off their phones and social media and interacting with each other. Only then will you see more empathy, understanding, caring, and other things that foster healthy human relationships.

I think @BaronOfHair said something to the effect that our social skills are experiencing atrophy. It's the new cancer that hasn't been identified yet.

 

[Slowhandluke]

We need to get people off their phones and social media and interacting with each other. Only then will you see more empathy, understanding, caring, and other things that foster healthy human relationships.

I think @BaronOfHair said something to the effect that our social skills are experiencing atrophy. It's the new cancer that hasn't been identified yet.

No... we just need to put mentally ill people in jail... we also need to have a "higher trust" society.. People need to held accountable for their actions (held accountable for ghosting, cheating, playing with people's emotions, etc.)

When the rules allow bad behavior, bad behavior will flourish. Smart phones enable it, but at the end of the day, its people... social media isnt the problem, social media promoting cheating, treating other people bad is the problem.

Back in the old days, society kept people in check... you dont cheat because EVERYONE would know and you might not be able to get a new job in your town that you lived all your life.

Society will be more caring when society becomes more "high trust". For that to happen, bad people must be removed from society and there must be accountability.

high trust society allows a person to help another person who's car may have broken down on the road... without being afraid they might get their heads blown up by the very same people they were trying to help.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

We need to get people off their phones and social media and interacting with each other. Only then will you see more empathy, understanding, caring, and other things that foster healthy human relationships.

I think @BaronOfHair said something to the effect that our social skills are experiencing atrophy. It's the new cancer that hasn't been identified yet.

I don't think social media is to blame. The destruction of the 3rd place is a major reason behind the decreased socialization.

That said, Tiktok brainrot probably isn't helping these kids nowadays.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I've talked about this at length over the last few years ,but yes it is starting to reach crescendo point

Things will only change though when women stop having such easily accessible attention flows and unfortunately that buck stops with men using digital channels to provide it like it is water

Over the last decade very ordinary women have ascertained a lot of demand from desperate men whilst also getting the odd bit of pipe from men whom would normally be out of their reach some have even managed relationships.

It leads to a very high level of entitlement and expectation in the dating market and because of that the whole male / female equilibrium has been badly messed up

When you have herds of normal women believing and being told they deserve a celebrity or some other outlier type male its going to cause serious problems and it is becuase normal guys just cannot meet them expectations in any way

And it gets worse becuase women tend to be extremely collectively minded and easily influenced by other women especially on social media

I.E ......." if she has that , why don't I have that , I deserve that"


its important to note though that men are doing themselves absolutely no favours , many men are resorting to ultra direct and sexually charged interactions / approaches which allow women the ability to instantly disqualify them as beneath them.

Male game I don't think has ever been in a worse state than it currently is , I mean you have huge amounts of men who can't so much as get a sniff of Pu$$y and literally have absolutley no clue on how to deal with these modern female archetypes who are becoming increasingly despondent.

 

[BadBoy89]

When men gave the gender that gives birth; financial, legal, moral, political, and social power, its game over. The gender roles are blurred and everything gets confused and ends with "what do i get out of it?"

Marriage was created, not to control men, but to control women. Women had the DNA makeup to nurture men and give kids and be almost a 2nd mother, that's what men wanted down to the core. Of course women didn't want that but they almost had no choice at the time. They had to do for the benefit of society.

Then when women said "hey, we want to work too and make our own money and have same rights and not be at home all day", the government and people in charge said "hey, this is a great idea to give women power and make them work, it will lead to more money for us", and since the governments and people in charge had the women they wanted for themselves, they didn't care how it would affect the average man.

Now Russia, China, Iran, South Korea, North Korea, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Mexico, Sweden and many more are telling their citizens "Get married early! Get pregnant early! We want more kids!" (we don't care if affects your life, its good for us!)

Well why didn't you guys think of that when you gave women all the power so you could expand your economies and make more money?

Rock on!

 

[Redwood]

I do agree that the delusion is off the charts. I'd argue that it's getting worse by the day

 

[Gamisch]

Good , you've woken up.

Can't be king when you live exclusively in your own little bubble. Way too many people in the west ignore what happens around them as long as " I got mine". People will stumble over homeless people in the morning and yet pretend like everything is fine. A king is fully aware of his surroundings, understanding all dynamics and their consequences.

The pendulum can definitely wing the other way , but rather for you PERSONALLY than for the entire world ir society. Once you see the world for what it is ( and not what they want you to see or you stubbornly see by ignoring facts) everything will change.

Because we won't get another 1950 western prime where every man gets a spouse just for existing. It's sink or swim, natural selection in a way we've never seen before.

 

[Plinco]

Good , you've woken up.

Can't be king when you live exclusively in your own little bubble. Way too many people in the west ignore what happens around them as long as " I got mine". People will stumble over homeless people in the morning and yet pretend like everything is fine.

The pendu

No... we just need to put mentally ill people in jail... we also need to have a "higher trust" society.. People need to held accountable for their actions (held accountable for ghosting, cheating, playing with people's emotions, etc.)

When the rules allow bad behavior, bad behavior will flourish. Smart phones enable it, but at the end of the day, its people... social media isnt the problem, social media promoting cheating, treating other people bad is the problem.

Back in the old days, society kept people in check... you dont cheat because EVERYONE would know and you might not be able to get a new job in your town that you lived all your life.

Society will be more caring when society becomes more "high trust". For that to happen, bad people must be removed from society and there must be accountability.

high trust society allows a person to help another person who's car may have broken down on the road... without being afraid they might get their heads blown up by the very same people they were trying to help.

No one owes another person a living or good feelings, people are individuals with their own interests. It's up to you to teach people how to treat you, or earn your own living.

 

[Solomon]

I don't think social media is to blame. The destruction of the 3rd place is a major reason behind the decreased socialization.

That said, Tiktok brainrot probably isn't helping these kids nowadays.

I was thinking about that during the 4th of July, went to a bar before a family outing. 20 years ago I remember you could go out to a local bar and it would be packed. Nowadays the only time it's packed during a holidays. 2008 decismated nightlife in my city but Covid finished of the rest. It's not just bars and clubs but you use to be able to do different things and now not so much

 

[crowolf]

Perhaps look for women that are not brainwashed by the mainstream media/culture. Conscious/intelligent ones. I believe they still exist.

 

[OngBak]

It is really getting terrible, they also actively punish good men

 

[Slowhandluke]

Good , you've woken up.

Can't be king when you live exclusively in your own little bubble. Way too many people in the west ignore what happens around them as long as " I got mine". People will stumble over homeless people in the morning and yet pretend like everything is fine. A king is fully aware of his surroundings, understanding all dynamics and their consequences.

In the real world, the average man is not a king. and the average woman is not a queen... people in general are just average..

The pendulum can definitely wing the other way , but rather for you PERSONALLY than for the entire world ir society. Once you see the world for what it is ( and not what they want you to see or you stubbornly see by ignoring facts) everything will change.

Because we won't get another 1950 western prime where every man gets a spouse just for existing. It's sink or swim, natural selection in a way we've never seen before.

but yet, average women expect to get a man (a really good, nay... a really excellent man) just for existing. The good news is that the tide is turning... These women are not reproducing... they are sinking... more older men are getting with younger women.

 

[Slowhandluke]

No one owes another person a living or good feelings, people are individuals with their own interests. It's up to you to teach people how to treat you, or earn your own living.

individuals as a group makes up society... Society decides what is moral, what is fair, what is just.... Ultimately this leads to culture. Japanese culture is different then Somalian culture.. as it is different than Muslim culture..

I do owe society (especially my parents, friends, relatives, people who have helped me through life, to get me where I am) at the bare minimum, gratitude.... life is about helping others and caring about them... AND punishing bad people...

 

[Bokanovsky]

No... we just need to put mentally ill people in jail... we also need to have a "higher trust" society.. People need to held accountable for their actions (held accountable for ghosting, cheating, playing with people's emotions, etc.)

When the rules allow bad behavior, bad behavior will flourish. Smart phones enable it, but at the end of the day, its people... social media isnt the problem, social media promoting cheating, treating other people bad is the problem.

Back in the old days, society kept people in check... you dont cheat because EVERYONE would know and you might not be able to get a new job in your town that you lived all your life.

Society will be more caring when society becomes more "high trust". For that to happen, bad people must be removed from society and there must be accountability.

high trust society allows a person to help another person who's car may have broken down on the road... without being afraid they might get their heads blown up by the very same people they were trying to help.

Sounds easier said than done. How do you remove someone from society for "playing with people's emotions"?

Decency is a cultural concept. If people are not taught to be decent form a young age, there is no fixing it.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Sounds easier said than done. How do you remove someone from society for "playing with people's emotions"?

Easy. just look in our past. How did society punish bad people who played with innocent people's emotions? I'll give you a hint... it was called slvt shaming... it was called "shot gun wedding"... it was called being labelled a "home wrecker", a cad, a womanizer.. etc.. society in the past cared about reputation because if you had a bad reputation, you were excluded basically from "society"...

 

[The Duke]

I don't think social media is to blame. The destruction of the 3rd place is a major reason behind the decreased socialization.

That said, Tiktok brainrot probably isn't helping these kids nowadays.

How can you not blame social media for creating isolation? 20yrs ago when you walked into a bar/restaurant/social venue/etc people were more likely to start up a conversation with a stranger. Now days they have their noses buried in their phones looking at "social" media. There is far less social interaction taking place than ever before. People are not practicing their social skills anymore and it shows whenever you can get one to react.

And what exactly do you call a 3rd place? Restraurants, bars, cafes, libraries? Those places are dying out because of social media and other forms of electronic entertainment that involves your nose buried in a phone.

Instead of going out to eat, losers will use their electronic device to order ubereats so they don't have to interact with a human, further eroding their social skills.

 

[The Duke]

Sounds easier said than done. How do you remove someone from society for "playing with people's emotions"?

Decency is a cultural concept. If people are not taught to be decent form a young age, there is no fixing it.

Black Culture is proof!

 

[Clockwerk50]

I’m sorry, but this sounds a lot like the same “things were better back in the day” argument that every generation tends to make.

It is no secret that as people get older, the dating pool naturally changes and often decreases in both size and quality. A lot of that simply reflects the stage of life people are in and the experiences they’ve accumulated.